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AVGMOM
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 2:22:20 PM
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| God works in mysterious ways now doesn't he. |
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Citizen Kane
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 2:26:25 PM
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| I think God is very disappointed in this whole thing. |
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Court4Fred
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 5:39:01 PM
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| Sally - one our our posters, a Demaria supporter, did in fact allude to the rumor. No one is saying Carlo started, but certainly his supporters have had a hand in spreading it. And truth be told, there are a number of brand new people who decided to show up during this election cycle and post mostly on topics concerning their candidate. It's nothing new. |
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short timer
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 5:52:27 PM
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| Sally, you ask what the lie about Joe being in the hospital was but in one of your posts earlier on the subject you state yourself what both of the rumors were. Also you keep saying Joe has the negative ads, what are the ads you refer too, because if you are talking about lower Broadway, it's the truth, it's not a made up situation. If that's not the negative ad you speak about then which one would it be. |
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short timer
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 7:02:00 PM
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| Put your glasses on, I was with Joe today and he doesn't have black eyes ...... Somehow I don't believe Carlo wants ridiculous statments made by the people who support him, you bring him down by association |
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EverettsPride
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 7:37:31 PM
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Short timer I never said there were lies in Joe's ads. Please point that out to me. I cannot post what I know here because I was not there. But just like your saying one thing, it could be another since you were not there either.
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short timer
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 7:46:29 PM
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Sally,
I asked what the negative ads were,I thought the whole campaign was free of negative ads. I saw ads based on public record. When I mentioned lies, I refered to Joe's hospitalization. |
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Citizen Kane
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 8:10:45 PM
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| Taylor . . . you must be a very sad, bitter person. You conduct on this board since you first started posting has been reprehensible. I hope Hanlon and Carlo are proud of you. |
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Dominic
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 8:26:31 PM
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I think "negative campaign" encompasses more than just LIES. I'll assume that your mentioning of public record refers to Joe's advertisements related to voting records. It's not difficult to pour through the past 4 years of voting records and find 10 instances where the candidates didn't agree on votes. Either candidate could have done that.....but showing the voters a manipulated, hand picked snap shot covering the past 4 years doesn't provide enough information for a voter to form an opinion. Instead, using a snapshot like Joe has doesn't tell the whole story. It's definitely doesn't tell the voters that Joe voted against a lump sum $3,000,000 cut to the budget. It doesn't tell voters that he voted against bringing the department heads in front of the budget committee to discuss specific cuts. It doesn't mention the Joe's voted yes to cut budgets for road salt and fire hydrant repair. So, along with LIES, I would put SELF SERVING HALF-TRUTHS under the umbrella of negative campaigns. If you look at Joe's lower Broadway ads, his picture of William Thibeault's development plan for lower Broadway are a complete FABRICATION as revealed by the developer himself in 2 seperate advertisements. These same 2 advertisements reveal Joe's hypocritical nature......supporting a local business while at the same time bashing them for his political purposes. Peaking under the umbrella again, I see not only LIES and SELF SERVING HALF-TRUTHS but also FABRICATIONS and HYPOCRISY.
I find it interesting that both sides of the debate on this board agree that the old way of politics in Everett has to go......but the people on Joe's side refuse to see that the negative method of campaigning is a hallmark of the old way of politics in Everett. Shouldn't this be a huge red flag that things will not change if Joe is elected? |
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short timer
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 9:01:06 PM
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Domenic,
The campaign voting record you refer to only goes back to April of this year, except for one piece regarding the audit, it covers all money transfers and budget issues brought before the board during that period, also the only items shown are those that the candidates voted DIFFERENTLY on. On all the other pieces you refer to both candidayes voted the same way. If you believe Joe's votes on these were incorrect than you must also feel that Carlo's votes were also incorrect. Simply put this ad shows only the differences between the two candidates voting in 2007. If a candidate isn't suppose to point out the differeces between he and his opponent we may as well have them draw straws and have the longer straw be mayor. I believe the rest of the country bases their votes on candidates differences though. |
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Court4Fred
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Posted - 11/04/2007 : 9:07:44 PM
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Dom:
Do you think that Joe voted against the lump sum $3,000,000 cut to the budget because it wasn't actionable? That's right - it couldn't be acted upon because city government is supposed to cut line items, not bottom lines. Such a vote would be largely symbolic.
As for for the rest of your attack on Joe - I'll let Joe and his supporters challenge it. I see plenty of self-serving on both sides, Dominic...and I do see the difference between a contractor who pays for a service (and there aren't too many of these facilities in the area) and a candidate who has a fundraiser hosted by said businessman, with a terrible track record not just in Everett but in Newburyport, and big designs on lower Broadway. Perhaps if Thibeault had been a better neighbor, this wouldn't have been an issue to run with, but at the end of the day, if it's hypocrisy on Joe's part...what it is on the part of your candidate? He's got the DEP up his rearend, with foul smelling gas leaching from the dump due to rotting gypsum board that he dumped up there...when he was supposed to be using appropriate fill to cap it. The mess Thibeault made in Newburyport isn't your candidate's fault, but allowing someone with a sketchy past (where was the due diligence on this guy) to host a fundraiser is. Can you blame anyone for not wanting this guy on lower Broadway, much less hosting a mayoral candidate's fundraiser?
Well, it's almost over, Dominic. May the best man win.
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Joe McGonagle"s Health
