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Cruller DaVille
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Posted - 11/05/2008 :  10:39:19 AM  Show Profile Send Cruller DaVille a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"drift".... isn't that a most appropriate word, Massdee

"drifing" away from their responsibility as legislatures to their constituents......
"drifing" away from the good of the people and toward their bulging pockets.
"drifting" away from any sort of a moral or ethical compass



"Cruller DaHville"
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Ellen
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Posted - 11/06/2008 :  08:31:17 AM  Show Profile Send Ellen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If stringent rules and regulations are in place with the agreement the administration is putting together to try and remove the piles down at Wood Waste it might be a feasible plan. Will the administration enforce an agreement? Me, personally is very skeptical. I have watched the public hearing a few times and I got the impression the mayor was biased in Wood Waste's favor. He referred to Mr Thebault as Billy, Attorney Rossi as Tony and Attorney Nyland as Chip. When some of our elected officials spoke, who the mayor has known for years, he referred to them as Alderman Van Campen, not Bob, Councilor Simonelli, not Steve. I don't remember how he addressed Council Sarnie, but wouldn't be surprised if she was addressed as Cynthia, since she seems to be one of his champions on the Common Council.

If the city enters into an agreement with Wood Waste it has to be strictly monitored and enforced. It appears that some of the problems Mr Thebault has in Newburyport is his noncompliance to agreements he has made in that community. The administration has to understand that many residents have been following this issue for years and we know the history of Mr Thebault.

I hope any agreement the city puts together will be shared with the public before it goes to a vote from city government. I believe our concerns should be heard.
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massdee
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Posted - 11/06/2008 :  09:50:05 AM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I want to hear the particulars of the agreement before I completely make up my mind. If there is a enough teeth in the agreement, it just might be a viable option. We'll see, but any agreement reached needs to be enforced by the city, state and even the residents need to be vigilant. If we see something not right, we need to report it.

I would also like to see the administration and Wood Waste look into Councilor B Cardello's option, railing the waste out with the rail located very close to the Wood Waste site. To me, that would make more sense than trucking it through the city to lower Broadway. It is something worth exploring.
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Tails
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Posted - 11/06/2008 :  11:57:43 AM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look what everyone had to go through just to get this guy to move. It was not right. It seems great now but just wait, once he gets what he wants he will go back to his ways. He doesn't care, he thinks this is a joke. Now that HE'S loosing money, all of a sudden it's okay to come up with an agreement.

I don't care if the trash is in containers or not, they should not be on two different spots in the city. So, this will be when the excuses start coming up and they will blame the railroad.

They are going to rail this where? From Everett, straight to Ohio? There needs to be a more detailed plan and that better not get rubber stamped. Any stops from Everett to Ohio, like the state of Maine or NH??
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Cruller DaVille
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Posted - 11/07/2008 :  09:27:52 AM  Show Profile Send Cruller DaVille a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know anything about a recent "communication" sent around titled, "Everett development Project"? It consisted of handwritten comments, commenting on a blurb in the North Section of the Globe titled " A Healthier Community "

Brought up some extremely good points and pointed out how hypocritical it is to apply for grants promoting health while simultaneously promoting such an unhealthy project.

Wasnt signed by anyone

"Cruller DaHville"
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Tails
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Posted - 11/07/2008 :  09:37:41 AM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From Newburyport:

Friday, November 7, 2008
Landfill
A belated huge "thank you" to all the people in Everett who keep me up on what's going on in that city, with this issue.

Someone has written to say that Thibeault's Lynnfield house is on the market. And apparently some policeman from Long Island is sniffing around here, asking questions ...

I don't know what will happen now ... if this all means anything.

The proposed agreement seems to me to be sort of "pie-in-the-sky," but who am I to say? Couldn't we use those landfill gases to generate some energy?

We may have an uncapped landfill on our hands soon! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

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n/a
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Posted - 11/07/2008 :  10:52:59 AM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Something tells me there is more to long island police than environmental issues.
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Cruller DaVille
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Posted - 11/07/2008 :  1:08:23 PM  Show Profile Send Cruller DaVille a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ya think?

"Cruller DaHville"
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massdee
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Posted - 11/07/2008 :  9:35:48 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cruller DaVille

Does anyone know anything about a recent "communication" sent around titled, "Everett development Project"? It consisted of handwritten comments, commenting on a blurb in the North Section of the Globe titled " A Healthier Community "

Brought up some extremely good points and pointed out how hypocritical it is to apply for grants promoting health while simultaneously promoting such an unhealthy project.

Wasnt signed by anyone

"Cruller DaHville"




This is the first I have heard of this letter, do you happen to know where I could get a copy? I don't much care for unsigned things but I would like to read it.
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Tails
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Posted - 11/14/2008 :  1:24:36 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is a terrific idea however, I hear people don’t want to be known out there publicly.

8.
C0235-08 Resolution/s/Councilor Stephen Simonelli
To establish a people's ad hoc committee in opposition to Wood Waste of Boston at its present location on Route 16 in Everett and potential relocation on Lower Broadway Route 99 in Everett.



Finally, someone that is making sense. I am not knocking the “Ward One Delegation” However,

obviously, the Mayor does not need their approval for this. Why did they put this piece on then??

Because…...... they are hearing what the administration wants them to hear.

The administration is doing everything they can to get “Thibeault” what he wants. Anyone that does not see this is blind.

I am telling you right now, this is all over the city. Anyone councilor that tries to discredit Steve Simonelli over this has seen the final year.

Lorrie Bruno had better be fair. No one is happy with her, and her treatment to Steve Simonelli and K-Hicks. People are tired of it, and can see right through the theatrics.

We have so many promises to city council members for their vote. When you have a city council of 25 people and you make promises to about 20 of those people….The word gets out…..Money talks.


We all want the piles out of here, but letting the city have two sites is ridiculous. Just go burden someone else and having NO IDEA where those piles are going?? That’s what I want to know. Who’s taking these piles or are they going to disappear along the way somewhere.

Anyone who agrees to a consent order….. without knowing any logistics of it, is a fool!

The smell coming from Wood Waste is when he is crushing that C&D Material. It's disgusting and should not be allowed and should NOT have gone on this long!

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C0236-08 Resolution/s/Councilor Stephen Simonelli
That the City of Everett, through the Board of Health and the Mayor's Office, along with the Department of Environmental Protection, issue a cease and desist order against Wood Waste of Boston to stop all work at present site, especially, the crushing of materials, until the Court ruling in Newburyport is resolved in Dec

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Tails
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Posted - 11/15/2008 :  1:40:08 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The AG went to court again. This man is a menace to society and the Mayor wants to give him a truck route for lower Broadway...and uses that podium to DEFEND this man...HA!


State says landfill in contempt

By Katie Farrell
Staff writer

November 15, 2008 03:59 am



NEWBURYPORT — State Attorney General Martha Coakley is seeking a contempt order against New Ventures, the owner of the stench-plagued Crow Lane landfill, saying the company is ignoring the 2006 preliminary injunction issued in Suffolk Superior Court.

Jill Butterworth, deputy press secretary for Coakley, said the order was filed yesterday. New Ventures will now need to appear in Suffolk Superior Court on Friday.

If granted by the court, the order would force New Ventures to do all the tasks it agreed to but has failed to do: control smelly liquids that are coming out of the landfill, respond to odor complaints and operate the landfill gas-control system to properly filter noxious hydrogen sulfide emissions.

The landfill case was referred to the attorney general's office by the state Department of Environmental Protection in September, after a notice sent to New Ventures on Aug. 26 by DEP, highlighting 13 violations of the preliminary injunction and ordering the company to comply, was not met, Butterworth said.

New Ventures has failed to remedy nearly all of the violations listed in late August, according to the attorney general's office.

"New Ventures has repeatedly violated court orders and failed to adequately control harmful odors plaguing Newburyport residents," Coakley said in a prepared statement sent by her office yesterday. "My office will continue to work with the MassDEP and the city of Newburyport to make sure that this problem is appropriately addressed in order to best protect the welfare and health of those living near the landfill."

The complaint states that New Ventures has "blatantly disregarded several key requirements of this court's injunctive orders" and alleges that New Ventures has failed to pump the landfill's leachate tanks, failed to respond to odor complaints from neighbors and failed to operate the landfill gas pretreatment system so that it meets the performance standard required by the preliminary injunction.

The complaint also states that New Ventures has not staffed the landfill 24 hours a day or submitted required daily landfill gas sampling data to the DEP.

"MassDEP has been working with the City of Newburyport and the Attorney General's Office to achieve compliance on this difficult site in order to protect nearby residents," MassDEP Commissioner Laurie Burt said in a prepared statement. "In contrast, the actions taken thus far by New Ventures to comply with the preliminary injunction have been inadequate, and that must change."

New Ventures agreed to the preliminary injunction that set strict guidelines for the closure of the landfill and for measures to control the foul odors that have troubled the landfill's neighbors. The terms were negotiated with the state's attorney general's office and the DEP.

New Ventures has broken the requirements of the preliminary injunction before and has missed some deadlines, leading the attorney general's office to warn the company in the past.

The mayor has presented the City Council with a new draft on agreement to close the landfill. The council rejected an earlier proposal in June and is in the process of studying the newest version of an agreement.

In an interview earlier this week, Mayor John Moak said the city is working to gather additional information to give to councilors so that they can take a vote. Moak said he hopes the agreement will come up for discussion at the council's Dec. 8 meeting.

"We're pushing to get that done, to get it to the council," he said.

Moak said he received word yesterday that the complaint had been filed. City officials had spoken to DEP about the August letter about a month ago to see if any progress had been made.

A chief concern of the neighbors to the landfill has been that DEP hasn't been working fast enough, Moak said.

"I think that is important for our community that they can see that the state agencies are trying to hold New Ventures to a level," the mayor said, adding he is glad that the DEP and the attorney general's office are "holding their feet to the fire to make sure they keep up" with standards.
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massdee
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Posted - 11/15/2008 :  4:50:35 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone really believe Thibeault will follow the City of Everett's Enforcement Order when he has total disregard for the DEP and the AG? It does not matter what is in that enforcement order, he will just disregard it and do as he damn pleases. Fining Thibeault will not work, he can afford to pay. Maybe it's time to see if his actions are criminal and civil offenses.

Excerpt from above:


New Ventures has failed to remedy nearly all of the violations listed in late August, according to the attorney general's office.

"New Ventures has repeatedly violated court orders and failed to adequately control harmful odors plaguing Newburyport residents," Coakley said in a prepared statement sent by her office yesterday. "My office will continue to work with the MassDEP and the city of Newburyport to make sure that this problem is appropriately addressed in order to best protect the welfare and health of those living near the landfill."

The complaint states that New Ventures has "blatantly disregarded several key requirements of this court's injunctive orders" and alleges that New Ventures has failed to pump the landfill's leachate tanks, failed to respond to odor complaints from neighbors and failed to operate the landfill gas pretreatment system so that it meets the performance standard required by the preliminary injunction.

The complaint also states that New Ventures has not staffed the landfill 24 hours a day or submitted required daily landfill gas sampling data to the DEP.

"MassDEP has been working with the City of Newburyport and the Attorney General's Office to achieve compliance on this difficult site in order to protect nearby residents," MassDEP Commissioner Laurie Burt said in a prepared statement. "In contrast, the actions taken thus far by New Ventures to comply with the preliminary injunction have been inadequate, and that must change."

New Ventures agreed to the preliminary injunction that set strict guidelines for the closure of the landfill and for measures to control the foul odors that have troubled the landfill's neighbors. The terms were negotiated with the state's attorney general's office and the DEP.

New Ventures has broken the requirements of the preliminary injunction before and has missed some deadlines, leading the attorney general's office to warn the company in the past.
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massdee
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Posted - 11/15/2008 :  5:13:44 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From a Newburyport blog:

William Thibeault of Wood Waste fame, owns New Ventures that operates the Crow Lane Landfill in Newburyport.

Saturday, November 15, 2008
Contempt order filed against New Ventures
The state Attorney General is seeking a contempt order against New Ventures, says today's Daily News.


State Attorney General Martha Coakley is seeking a contempt order against New Ventures, the owner of the stench-plagued Crow Lane landfill, saying the company is ignoring the 2006 preliminary injunction issued in Suffolk Superior Court.

Jill Butterworth, deputy press secretary for Coakley, said the order was filed yesterday. New Ventures will now need to appear in Suffolk Superior Court on Friday.

According to the AG's office, NV has failed to comply with most of the 13 violations of the 2006 preliminary injunction issued in Suffolk Superior Court, which were cited in an Aug. 26 letter from DEP.

It says in the story that the City Council will not debate the proposed agreement with NV until its Dec. 8 meeting.

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Tails
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Posted - 11/16/2008 :  2:38:35 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
These comments are from the article. I am concerned that he can declare bankruptcy on Wood Waste. That might not be a bad thing, at least we would get rid of him. I wounder how many times in the past he declared bankruptcy with how many LLC's he has......


Does anyone want to venture (no humor intended) a guess as to when New Ventures declares bankruptcy and walks away from the mess and leaves it to the City and/or State to resolve? Sometimes past history/performance does indicate future performance (or lack thereof).

Then they resurface as a new corporate entity....should not count on the state for anything....they are in the business of taking, not giving.
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Tails
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Posted - 11/20/2008 :  4:09:42 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Skull and crossbones flying over city's notorious landfill

By Katie Farrell
Staff writer

November 20, 2008 03:56 am



NEWBURYPORT — Its significance is unclear, but its presence has been made known.

Earlier this week, a flagpole with a Jolly Roger skull and crossbones flag was put up at the Crow Lane landfill, a source of frustration and anger for the surrounding neighborhood over the last several years.

At-Large Councilor Tom Jones said yesterday he can see the flag from his house and that it was put up following an article in the newspaper reporting that the state Attorney General's office is seeking a contempt order against New Ventures, the owner and operator of the landfill, for failing to meet the terms of a preliminary injunction.

For years, the landfill has caused trouble for the neighborhood. The demolition debris that has been dumped on the landfill often stinks like rotten eggs, and the smell permeates the neighborhood. The injunction was meant to force New Ventures to meet agreed-upon terms to rid the neighborhood of the stench and operate the capping operation in a generally cleaner manner.

William Thibeault, president of New Ventures, said yesterday he had no comment about his Crow Lane landfill.

"I assume it was him (Thibeault). So this is his attitude about contempt," Jones said. "It doesn't look accidental. This is Billy at his best. I think people look at it and they snicker, and then they start thinking about it and they get mad."

Mayor John Moak said he saw the flag yesterday as he dropped off leaves at the compost facility, located next to the landfill.

"I do not know what the significance of it is; I don't know who put it up," Moak said. "It's not on the top of my priority list to deal with right now."

The city has been in legal battles with New Ventures over the Crow Lane landfill for some time.

On Friday, the Attorney General's office requested a contempt order at Suffolk Superior Court. The landfill case was referred to that office by the state Department of Environmental Protection in September, after a notice sent to New Ventures on Aug. 26 by DEP, highlighting 13 violations of the preliminary injunction and ordering the company to comply, was not met.

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