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tetris
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Posted - 02/11/2009 : 8:01:47 PM
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Tails,
I don't think that it's just a courtesy; it sounds to me like it's more part of a process. My evidence of that would be the time limit imposed on it. And a site plan review, if that is what this was a part of, has a fee of $1,500 associated with it, according to the city's zoning ordinance.
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massdee
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Posted - 02/11/2009 : 8:51:39 PM
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| I don't know much about how this works. I'll have to read up on it, but I still don't think that the Planning Board should even begin the process until Thibeault owns the property. It just doesn't make sense to me to do otherwise. |
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tetris
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Posted - 02/11/2009 : 9:21:00 PM
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I wish I could point you to a definitive place, but it's hard to know exactly where to look when we don't understand everything that's going on.
I'm just guessing but if there is some type of agreement bewtween the two parties to sell the property and the desire is to subdivide it upon purchase, I don't see why this would be a problem. It just makes logical sense to only have to deal with the Registry of Deeds once, if you can. But maybe that's just me. |
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tetris
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 11:00:41 PM
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| Just a suggestion. Maybe the Newburyport issues deserve their own thread in the Wood Waste forum. Also, the first document is incomplete; it cuts off after the first two paragraphs. Makes the second document impossible to completely understand without it. |
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Tails
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 Posted - 02/13/2009 : 08:29:49 AM
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Originally posted by tetris
Just a suggestion. Maybe the Newburyport issues deserve their own thread in the Wood Waste forum. Also, the first document is incomplete; it cuts off after the first two paragraphs. Makes the second document impossible to completely understand without it.
That's a good suggestion and I actually thought of that. My point of posting it was to show that I doubt very much that the landfill issue will be resolved soon.
We were told a month ago that it would be in 7-10 days. We cant just keep sitting back waiting for the landfill to open. It may never open. My point is a cease and desist order should have been done until the business owner starts removing those piles like HE said he would almost a year ago, and there has been no movement.
Newburyport's cease and desist was only from 3/18/2008. So since that date, nothing has been removed from Wood Waste. That is unacceptable. |
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Tails
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Posted - 02/13/2009 : 09:50:11 AM
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| The "COMPLAINT FOR CIVIL CONTEMPT" is 18 pages long, and the response was shorter. |
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massdee
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Posted - 02/13/2009 : 10:00:16 AM
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| Do you have a link for the 18 pages? |
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tetris
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Posted - 02/13/2009 : 10:11:09 AM
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| It could always be loaded to rapidshare. I'd like to read it and I'd really like to evaluate the response; but, you just can't do that without the original document. |
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Dead Crows Lane
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Posted - 02/14/2009 : 9:16:58 PM
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Originally posted by Tails
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Originally posted by tetris
Just a suggestion. Maybe the Newburyport issues deserve their own thread in the Wood Waste forum. Also, the first document is incomplete; it cuts off after the first two paragraphs. Makes the second document impossible to completely understand without it.
That's a good suggestion and I actually thought of that. My point of posting it was to show that I doubt very much that the landfill issue will be resolved soon.
We were told a month ago that it would be in 7-10 days. We cant just keep sitting back waiting for the landfill to open. It may never open. My point is a cease and desist order should have been done until the business owner starts removing those piles like HE said he would almost a year ago, and there has been no movement.
Newburyport's cease and desist was only from 3/18/2008. So since that date, nothing has been removed from Wood Waste. That is unacceptable.
And it is unacceptable for the people of Everett to think NBPT should have the toxic waste in our back yard! We been dealing with Hydrogen Sulfide all of last week! It is so bad at Market Basket in NBPT that I am coughing most of the time while shopping! The best place to put this toxic crap is in Billy T back yard! And DEP can put in their back yard too! The "NBPT Current" has an article about Crow Lane landfill in this week paper. You can find it on line. |
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Tails
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Posted - 02/14/2009 : 9:55:41 PM
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Believe me, I am dead set against this crap going to Newburyport, as I am sure many other residents in Everett are too. Of course we are tired of the smells, our Stop & Shop stinks, the employees gag everyday, and God only knows the long term effects of Wood Waste's non-compliance to elderly and young children.
It's our Mayor, Carlo DeMaria, and his administration that wants the landfill open. Read this article here: You must be logged in to see this link.
specifically these paragraph's:
"I guess I shouldn't have said anything – I guess I should have
kept my trap shut," Moak said, after explaining that DeMaria
approached him at Saturday's meeting and asked questions about the
landfill. Moak says DeMaria even asked if Newburyport was going to get
him re-elected in Everett, apparently through resolving the landfill
debacle.
And....(Concerning the lies from our City Solicitor about Jack Morris....which she clearly states her lie in one of the videos)
Morris said that, contrary to rumor, he did not recommend that
Everett enter into a consent agreement with Wood Waste Boston, but
rather he told that city's officials they should rescind the site
assessment on the property and invoke a cease and desist order.
People in Everett want this man shut down period. When DeMaria ran for Mayor, he promised to get Thibeault in line....not help him and that's exactly what has been done. He sold out the people that HE took an oath to for this money monger, while we get sick.
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Tails
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Tails
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 7:10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Crows Lane
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Originally posted by Tails
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Originally posted by tetris
Just a suggestion. Maybe the Newburyport issues deserve their own thread in the Wood Waste forum. Also, the first document is incomplete; it cuts off after the first two paragraphs. Makes the second document impossible to completely understand without it.
That's a good suggestion and I actually thought of that. My point of posting it was to show that I doubt very much that the landfill issue will be resolved soon.
We were told a month ago that it would be in 7-10 days. We cant just keep sitting back waiting for the landfill to open. It may never open. My point is a cease and desist order should have been done until the business owner starts removing those piles like HE said he would almost a year ago, and there has been no movement.
Newburyport's cease and desist was only from 3/18/2008. So since that date, nothing has been removed from Wood Waste. That is unacceptable.
And it is unacceptable for the people of Everett to think NBPT should have the toxic waste in our back yard! We been dealing with Hydrogen Sulfide all of last week! It is so bad at Market Basket in NBPT that I am coughing most of the time while shopping! The best place to put this toxic crap is in Billy T back yard! And DEP can put in their back yard too! The "NBPT Current" has an article about Crow Lane landfill in this week paper. You can find it on line.
I also forgot to mention that William Thibeault's Wood Waste attorney, Anthony Rossi, approached the Everett City Council in June of 08 to answer questions as to where these piles will be going.......since Newburyport's cease & desist.
Mr. Rossi then informed us that there was a trial on July 18th and he was certain the landfill would re-open. One Alderman stood up and said "We don't have to wait until July for Wood Waste to start removing those piles"...............And Attorney Rossi words were "Oh no.......we have a plan B if the landfill does not open. We are going to truck this stuff out to Michigan and Ohio".
Well..........here it is February 15th, and those piles have not moved. Trucks are flying in and out of Wood Waste all day. If a truck drops waste off, they certainly are not waiting for it.....so where is this stuff going?????
It's sitting at Wood Waste! Wood Waste stinks! He's still taking in anything and everything and no one is watching. I blame the Everett administration for not having the guts to invoke an immediate cease and desist and lied and blamed everyone else. Newburyport's cease and desist is only from 3/18/2008 so this fell into their hands and they handled it very poorly!
Instead of doing the right thing, with gas prices going down and saying "In good faith" I will start to remove some of the piles to Ohio and Michigan....he did not. He just slapped Everett in the face. He's the one that is saving all that stuff for the landfill. |
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outoftowner
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Posted - 02/21/2009 : 5:11:41 PM
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This article from the Globe in 1996 proves a leopard cannot change his spots. Can you believe Everett has been suffering from these Wood Waste scoundrels for more than 13 years?
One more thing. The Everett assistant city solicitor in the article is now the city solicitor in Newburyport. (That's recycling, alright.)
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Tails
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Posted - 02/22/2009 : 6:54:51 PM
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The state absolutely dropped the ball on this one, right from the beginning. I'm not sure why either city has not taken legal action out on the state.
I also noticed that this company is not getting the media attention that is used to in the globe. Not sure why or if it's since Kay Lazar got transferred. |
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massdee
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Posted - 02/25/2009 : 10:56:00 AM
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Article from today's Independent.
Mayor: Wood Waste piles violate zoning ordinances
By Keith Spencer
The city solicitor and building inspector appeared alongside Mayor Carlo DeMaria at Monday’s board of aldermen meeting to discuss the controversial debris piles at Wood Waste of Boston. Discussion once again turned into debate, as Alderman Robert Van Campen and Mayor DeMaria continued to discuss their differences in policies.
At the heart of the debate, board members received an update on the administration’s efforts to negotiate an enforcement agreement with Wood Waste of Boston. The board also received news from DeMaria that Building Inspector James Sheehan would be issuing a zoning violation to Wood Waste regarding the height of debris piles at the center of the controversy.
DeMaria informed the board that his administration’s efforts to come to an agreement with William Thibeault, owner of Wood Waste, are ongoing. The administration had received a response on Monday morning from his attorneys regarding language added to the agreement. However, the company has yet to agree to language that includes the removal of piles from the Boston Street facility.
In yet another intense exchange, DeMaria and Alderman Van Campen discussed the differences in how they would like to approach this issue. Van Campen pressed the mayor for answers, even calling for action on the board’s recommendation for a cease and desist order.
Van Campen also attempted to hold DeMaria and his administration accountable for previous comments regarding the city’s jurisdiction over the pile heights and potential movement in Newburyport. Van Campen quoted a piece by Newburyport resident Gillian Stewart featured on her blog, “The Porter Unlimited”. The piece alleged that Newburyport Board of Health Director Jack Morris advised Everett to pursue a cease and desist order rather than an enforcement agreement.
DeMaria avidly defended his administration’s public comments on the subject, and offered to have the assistant city solicitor appear before the board. The mayor conceded that “he should have never said anything” about his discussions with Newburyport. However, DeMaria and the solicitor said they never denied Newburyport Board of Health Director Jack Morris discussed a cease and desist order.
Mayor DeMaria asked the board for an additional week to see what how Thibeault responds to a March 1st deadline set to submit construction plans of an enclosed facility at the Revere Beach Parkway site. DeMaria stated he “had seen the plans”, and he hoped that Wood Waste would come through.
After meeting with officials from the Department of Environmental Protection earlier in the day, DeMaria informed the board that his team is ready to pursue other options in the absence of a signed enforcement agreement.
The mayor conceded that there was in fact a zoning violation at the site regarding the height of debris piles. In 2002, the city issued a similar violation to Wood Waste, which had gone unnoticed up to this point.
“After some discussion, Jim admitted that he just had not realized it was a violation, and that he would rectify the situation this week,” said the mayor.
Van Campen praised this move, which was offered in a separate resolution by himself, Alderman DiPerri, and Alderman Marchese. The alderman admitted his intentions were not “to throw someone under the bus” but rather to express his frustrations. However, he was happy that through working the zoning ordinance, “we will get this piles out of here”.
The mayor informed the board that the building inspector would be issuing the violation on Tuesday, February 24. Wood Waste would then have thirty days to correct any violation before the city would begin legal proceedings to shut down the business’ operations. The city solicitor notified the board her intention would be to file a short order notice in superior court to get an immediate cease and desist order if the company failed to comply with the zoning ordinance.
The mayor also informed the board that his administration would be working with the DEP, the Attorney General, and Wood Waste to potentially broker a meeting to discuss the current situation. DeMaria and his administration is also researching the possibility that materials from the Everett facility could be deposited at other landfills in Massachusetts, an option dismissed by Wood Waste over the last year.
Alderman Michael Marchese also offered pointed criticism of DeMaria’s handling of the situation. In comments that echo previous remarks, Marchese outlined his frustration with Wood Waste, its owner, and their failure to comply with city and state regulations. The alderman called for the board of health to simply issue a cease and desist order as recommended by his fellow aldermen.
Before leaving with the customary thanks, DeMaria reiterated his original intentions to the board regarding this controversial topic. According to the mayor, he has always wanted “to get the piles out” and get the business in “proper working order”. He feared that coming down with an immediate cease and desist order would get “no movement” and the piles would be here for another three years while the city entered into litigation.
Van Campen’s resolution regarding the consent order was tabled until the board’s next meeting. Mayor DeMaria will appear once again to update members on the current status of the enforcement agreement. Van Campen also asked that his resolution regarding the zoning violation be sent to the building inspector due to the pending enforcement action against Wood Waste.
Following the meeting, DeMaria spoke briefly about his discussions earlier in the day with DEP, and the board’s continued push for a cease and desist order.
“I did what I believe was the only thing to do: try to build a solid case that could support litigation and a potential cease and desist order,” said the mayor. “After meeting with DEP officials, I am hearing a much different song. There are other avenues that we are exploring. If we can’t get a signed agreement soon, the board will get their cease and desist order.”
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