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Tails
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 Posted - 05/28/2008 : 11:27:46 AM
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Did I hear Carlo say he was in favor of this move for the past three years? This was not part of his campaign and what he said. Never one mention of a Woodwaste move. There were rumors about this and I was adamantly against it. He said office condos would go on lower Broadway and now he’s turning it around and saying put them on the Parkway. What he said for his campaign was we have a “developer” (Thibeault) who wants to build Marina, Office Condos, and a Shopping Mall on Lower Broadway. He blamed the Hanlon administration for not working with him because of petty politics when in fact, neither would Ragucci. It is unjust what is happening on lower Broadway and what a slap in the face to the residents.
This was in November, long after Boston Sludge was approved so he can’t use that excuse.
I am truly heart broken over this. I had people say to me:
“I can’t support DeMaria because of Woodwaste and Thibeault…we don’t want this type of business for lower Broadway and we should not be dealing with Thibeault”
My response to them was “Woodwaste is not going on lower Broadway, It will be retail outlets or a shopping mall” My family and friends have forgiven me but how can I face acquaintances I made that were concerned about this very matter? I can not face them and I feel like such a fool.
Quote from the Globe in November:
Thibeault, who is suing the city, was a DeMaria campaign supporter.
"He's got a master plan to develop it all and in that plan is tax dollars and it's clean development," DeMaria said. "He has an idea to bring in retail outlets like Lowe's and Loews Theaters, and he has had a major hotel chain contact him about moving down there."
Clean development is *not* a dump/waste facility.
Mayor DeMaria is selling out the city for Thibeault and Joe McGonagle was absolutely correct as to what was going to happen. |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/28/2008 : 1:17:27 PM
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Newburyport entered into a good faith deal with Mr Thibeault many years ago. It appears that the Newburyport officials had no idea of the underhanded business practices of Mr Thibeault. They took the man at his word and has paid a costly price for it.
Everett is in a different situation. We have the benefit of knowing what Newburyport has had to endure from Mr Thibeault. We also have first hand knowledge from Mr Thibeault's WoodWaste business down on Boston Street. Mr Thibeault has continued to fail to come into compliance on Boston Street. He has been fined by the EPA for $157,000.00 in 2006 for contaminating the Mystic River Water Shed. The offensive stench, still to this day, emanates from his dump site on Boston Street. Mr Thibeault has done nothing to alleviate this problem and it has been going on for quite some time.
Has the city ever cited Mr Thibeault for his noncompliance on Boston Street?
Can our Board of Health shut Wood Waste down for the offensive odors? I know the Town of Newburyport's Board of Health was able to shut down Mr Thibeault's landfill in their town. They issued a cease and desist order.
Our elected officials need to become more proactive on this issue. It's time for them to do the job we elected them to do. It's time for them to listen and protect the residents of Everett. |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/29/2008 : 08:43:54 AM
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Things haven't changed at all since this article was written.
'Reeking' havocBy Ulrika G. Gerth and Steven Ryan
Thu Oct 12, 2006, 08:00 PM EDTNewburyport
Newburyport - The owner of the company in charge of capping the Crow Lane landfill is accused of reeking havoc in Everett, the site from which construction and demolition debris will be transported to Newburyport.
City officials and residents in Everett are making a big stink about the local recycling facility that they say is spreading debris, dust and foul odors all over the surrounding neighborhood. The target of their complaints is Wood Waste of Boston's co-owner William Thibeault, who also runs New Ventures that has been fined $250,000 for breaking environmental laws and regulations at the Crow Lane landfill.
You wouldn't believe the smell; it smells like rotten eggs, said Wayne Matewsky, city councilor for Ward 1, where the recycling company is located. I'm shocked he can bring stuff to Newburyport. I'd stop him from doing anything.
According to an agreement being drafted by the state Attorney General's Office, Thibeault will be allowed to resume transporting construction and demolition debris from Everett to Newburyport to once and for all finish the capping that began four years ago. The work stopped after the city last December issued a cease and desist order.
Everett's issues will become ours, Councilor Bruce Vogel said. I'm amazed that the DEP and the AG are doing business with this guy.
Tensions between Thibeault and the city of Everett have intensified recently, Matewsky said. Last Friday, a small but vocal group of protestors wearing surgical masks gathered at the facility. City officials say the company, which has been operating in Everett for 14 years, is violating the conditions of its state license by not building an indoor facility to keep dust and debris from entering the air.
Health Inspector Joe DeVito said three 15-foot-high piles of debris are sitting out in the open although the company was ordered to build an enclosed structure five years ago. Around 15 trucks a day add to the piles, he said.
The trucks just scoop it up, throw it into a grinder and it blows out everywhere, said Everett Health Inspector Joe DeVito. There could be asbestos and lead in there. No one is looking through it because you'd need 40 to 50 guys down there. It's impossible.
They've been a problem for seven to eight years. They run rampant over environmental laws, Matewsky said. God knows what's inside those trash bags. Thibeault said that the Everett's complaints stem from a legal dispute over land.
We agreed to a three-year extension on the land with the previous (mayor's) administration, he said. And the new administration did nothing to close the deal. I put a lis pendens (notice of pending action) on the city yard and filed a lawsuit. (Their assertion) is a retaliation that my lawyer is looking into.
Thibeault also said that he hasn't built a permanent facility to contain the debris because the city wants Wood Waste to relocate again so the property can be redeveloped. The administration allowed us to continue with the temporary structure, he said. Matewsky disputes these claims, stating that Thibeault is actually referring to an adjacent property.
He put a bid on it and hasn't been able to purchase it, Matewsky said. That land has nothing to do with the situation at hand.
Mayor John Moak said he always knew the debris would come from Wood Waste, but was not aware of the extent of what Everett is going through. The problems reinforced his conviction that the city must have an inspector in Everett although the DEP, according to the preliminary agreement, will monitor activities on site to ensure the gypsum is separated from the construction and demolition debris before it arrives in Newburyport.
It doesn't give me a warm feeling, Moak said. There's no way we'll do anything without monitoring.
Councilor Tom Jones said he had heard of the problems although, he said, the level of complaints appears to have escalated.
There are new worries, he said of the situation in Newburyport. I hear that people are getting sick and I don't think it's only the gypsum.
Some neighbors in Everett have been blaming the drifting dust and debris from Wood Waste for compromising their health. Their symptoms mimic those reported by Newburyport residents who live near the Crow Lane landfill.
The wind blows this all over the neighborhood, said Jeanne DiStefano, who lives across the street from the facility in Everett. People have been complaining of sore throats, itchy eyes and other allergy-like symptons. My eyes are so red that you'd think I'm the devil.
The Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection says it has been investigating the problem.
The [DEP] has been working with the Attorney General's Office in relation to the operation and storage of material at the facility, said DEP spokesman Joe Ferson.
In July, the Environmental Protection Agency fined Wood Waste for $157,000 for discharging storm water from the facility to the Island End River without a permit, a violation of the Clean Water Act, according to the EPA.
Frustration is growing in Everett, DeVito said. The city is sending regular letters to the DEP, the attorney general and Gov. Mitt Romney, urging them to take action, but DeVito said that with the exception of one returned phone call, their attempts have been futile.
If it had been Wellesley or Belmont where some of these people live you'd never see these problems," he said, but because it's Chelsea and Everett, no one cares.
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Posted - 05/29/2008 : 10:02:35 AM
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People need to read the above article very carefully and see how the citizens of both cities have had the same health problems for many years caused by William Thiebeault.
The article below is from the Topix website and I think we need the city solicitors opinion on a conflict of interest having Mr. Rossi speak for William Thiebeault while at the same time being the Mayor's personal attorney. I do understand it is separate issues but it is a conflict.
Posted No dump for Everett
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Yes Rossi is the Mayors attorney and Carlo says he was in favor of this woodwaste move for the past three years. That’s not what he told people during his campaign and publically in the Boston Globe. Then Carlo gets all excited over Thibeault has 18 months to enclose his facility. 18 months or what? The state has been telling Thibeault this for years, what’s the difference now. The difference now is the mayor wants to tuck it away to lower Broadway,(his words,“tuck it away”) the forgotten part of the city,(he acts as if the people that live there are insignificant) and just dump more burdens on the residents. I think Carlo should move the DeMaria Mansion down there and see what it’s like. I think he should take a walk through the park where the kids play with the piles of waste right next to the playground. People in Newburyport are literally sick with nose bleeds and sore throats and can not enjoy their own homes due to the offensive stench and odors that Thibeault shut off on purpose but Carlo still wants to do business with him?????? Carlo needs to stand up and cut ties completely. We are very lucky that we have this information that we have on him before he gets any further in the city. |
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tetris
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Posted - 05/29/2008 : 10:14:18 AM
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Massdee,
Do you know what the source was for that article? It is a shame that none of the local papers can provide this type of coverage of our own city. |
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Marie
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Posted - 05/29/2008 : 10:23:38 AM
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| Just for general information: Attorney Rossi and William Thibeault were both campaign contributers to Mayor DeMaria's campaign to become mayor. |
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massdee
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Tails
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Posted - 05/29/2008 : 11:21:38 AM
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| The city solicitor still hasn’t answered the question about her position with the state ethics law and it’s been a month. I guess she is too busy working for Thibeault on the taxpayer’s dime. She made it clear that she would be the one to find out the ruling on her position. You will not get a straight answer from her about Rossi & Thibeault and she will talk in circles so I wouldn't count on it. |
Edited by - Tails on 05/29/2008 12:22:14 PM |
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Tails
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Posted - 05/29/2008 : 4:24:49 PM
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What I also find interesting is they are not happy in Southbridge and their taxes have gone up even with the landfill that Clayton Carlisle worked on their extention agreement, some reading here....You must be logged in to see this link.
and also the editorials are very interesting here....You must be logged in to see this link.
For a man that was going to retire this December, what in the world could possibly bring him to Everett???????? |
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Tails
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Posted - 05/30/2008 : 09:30:19 AM
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More arrogant news today from Newburyport. We have this information right under our noses and we see what type of person this is. Why would any mayor want to burden the entire city…..residents, City Council, Board of Health with this totally baffles my mind. This arrogant man is holding the landfill in Newburyport for ransom and it is sickening.
The residents are already suffering and he wants to increase materials brought in, he wants additional truckloads up to 70 per day.
It’s right here in black and white and this is the reason he wants lower Broadway.
Make sure to read what MassDee posted “reeking havoc” yesterday…. and if health inspectors could not handle Boston Street....we will be in deep do do on lower Broadway.
If there is a vote on this open meeting on Monday to send it to the Mayor, lots of people will be watching very carefully.
You must be logged in to see this link.
And.....this deal smells.....You must be logged in to see this link. |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/30/2008 : 11:17:34 AM
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| If the public meeting is to pass, does anyone know how much notice to the public must be given? It will be important for the residents to attend and have their views heard on the Wood Waste issue. |
Edited by - massdee on 05/30/2008 1:17:08 PM |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/30/2008 : 4:09:17 PM
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| Would the public hearing have a better chance of passing the CC if people were to show up for Monday's CC meeting? |
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Posted - 05/30/2008 : 5:53:33 PM
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| going to look pretty funny with all of you anonymous folks showin up with paperbags over your heads. |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/30/2008 : 6:55:24 PM
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| People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You are just as anonymous as the rest of us. |
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Posted - 05/30/2008 : 7:08:08 PM
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| but I signed my name to every letter I sent and every email I sent to an elected official. On top of that I think there is a huge difference between supporting anonymouly and bashing anonymously. |
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