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Posted - 03/27/2009 : 11:12:46 AM
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Thursday, March 26, 2009
The City Council strikes back (one of them, anyway)
I just got a copy of the order from Councilor Ives relating to the City Council engaging "independent counsel to review the legality of the Health Director's administrative order."
I found out some stuff yesterday about the City Council's objections, which include a weak deal the DEP and Attorney General will probably be making with Mr. Thibeault to facilitate the closing of the landfill.
They have to do that before he can resume dumping his crud here. There's still a DEP injunction in place.
Of course, I have not seen the proposed agreement (it's a secret), but I gather that there were many, many objections - and that was many moons ago. Who knows what it says now?
Which is why the mayor opted to circumvent that pesky City Council with the administrative order.
Let's all hope that the AG and DEP hold Mr. T's feet to the fire this time, because if they don't ... well, the mayor won't be able to run far enough away.
By the way, read the story in the Current tomorrow and see what Chip Nylen had to say about New Ventures breaking past agreements ... something along the lines of "let's not dwell in the past." (Of course, not dwelling in the past helps the city out, too ...)
It reminded me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, when the owner of the castle where Lancelot goes to rescue what he thinks is a damsel in distress says to wedding guests complaining about the slaughter Lancelot has wreaked, "Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who ..."
By the way, I couldn't help but notice that Thibeault has now broken his code of silence with the Newburyport press (at least the Daily News, although I believe the editor of the Current did speak with him) ... no doubt he's taking his final victory laps around the piles of stinky stuff that will soon be coming this way.
Hope he brought his clove-studded orange along ...
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 Posted - 03/28/2009 : 8:36:56 PM
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Newburyport -
By Gillian Swart
Mayor John Moak will ask the Board of Health to issue an administrative order that would allow trucks hauling construction waste to start dumping again at the Crow Lane landfill.
In a letter to the City Council dated March 9, Moak says that, in exchange for allowing the site to reopen, landfill owner New Ventures is offering not to sue Newburyport under the state’s hazardous waste laws, commonly referred to as 21E.
Back in the early 80s, the city had an agreement to dump municipal sewer sludge at the Crow Lane site when it was operating as a private dump. That piece of history became a huge bargaining chip for New Ventures in 2007, when the state Department of Environmental Protection moved in to try to force that company to control hydrogen sulfide emissions. That substance has been blamed for nauseating odors that have pervaded the surrounding neighborhoods for years.
In the process, DEP slapped the site with a hazardous waste site designation. Ironically, that move opened the door for New Ventures to claim Newburyport was responsible for the pollution and, therefore, responsible for the cost of the cleanup
If we act now, Moak wrote, the city has an opportunity to minimize its 21E liability. New Ventures has offered to provide the city with a covenant not to sue if the city issues an administrative order allowing it to close the landfill.
The covenant not to sue would release the city from 21E liability after the capping is completed. However, it should be made clear that the city is not giving up its enforcement authority in exchange for the covenant not to sue, the mayor wrote.
Moak made the decision over objections from the state Attorney General’s office, which has a contempt complaint against New Venture for failing to maintain the site and control odors.
That case is scheduled to be heard in Suffolk Superior Court April 23. The state AG#146;s office, the Department of Environmental Protection and New Ventures also are negotiating a deal to close the landfill.
New Ventures has filed its own lawsuit to set aside the Host Community Agreement, the company’s original accord with the city that applied a cap of 460,000 cubic yards on the volume of waste at the site. Several years after that agreement was signed, the DEP, which oversees landfill-closing projects, approved New Ventures#146; request to raise that amount by 100,000 cubic yards of waste. The company said the additional volume is needed to shape and grade the landfill prior to its closure.
Moak’s administrative order through the Health Department trumps the Host Community Agreement, and it requires New Ventures to close the site under DEP guidelines, which already allows the company to more than double the amount of waste it originally said it intended to dump at the site.
The administrative order would not affect the city’s authority under the state’s noisome trade statute. A cease and desist order issued in 2005 under that statute was upheld in a court challenge by New Ventures.
Everett dumps its problem on Newburyport
The city of Everett, which has waste problems that parallel those in Newburyport, has taken its own steps to get rid of mounting piles of debris in that community. The Everett-based company, Wood Waste, which like New Ventures is owned by Lynnfield resident William Thibeault, has been storing debris that could come to Crow Lane the moment the Board of Health issues the order.
In a consent order signed March 9 in Everett, Wood Waste agrees to cart 50 tons of construction and demolition debris per week, starting immediately.
Fifty tons is the equivalent of about one truckload. At that rate, said At-Large City Councilor Tom Jones, it would take a lifetime to clear the piles of debris from the Wood Waste construction and demolition recycling facility.
After eight weeks, Everett and Wood Waste will meet again to increase that amount, if necessary.
And Jones is sure it will be necessary, since New Ventures wants that extra 100,000 cubic yards of material for the landfill. Each cubic yard equals 1.5 tons, said Jones.
Moak said the order is just the beginning stages of a process that he hopes will lead to the successful closing of the landfill. He said New Ventures has not seen the order, and he has not seen an agreement with a covenant not to sue right now under 21E.
The devil is in the details, and this detail could give Moak time to get the administrative order in place while Thibeault buys some eight weeks of time with Everett.
I have no idea what’s going on down in Everett, Moak said. If I’d made this decision last week, there would be no question. Well, they’d still question my decision, but they wouldn’t question whether I was in cahoots with anyone in Everett.
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Tails
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Posted - 03/28/2009 : 9:06:29 PM
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Mayor Moak admits that he did this with the objection of the AG’s office……………that I do not understand at all.
I also do not understand the state coming in and calling the site a 21E site. The problems with the residents in Newburyport have nothing to do with the early 80’s, it’s been since Thibeault took over and he was dumping C&D waste from Wood Waste. Why is it he is allowed to hold them hostage over something that went on in the early 80’s? He is the one that needs to rectify the situation both in Everett and Newburyport. This thing with the 21E should have nothing to do with the odor complaints and the sicknesses caused by HIS INABILITY to operate a landfill.
I’m still shocked that Everett has entered into such a weak agreement for him to remove one truck per week, and that’s being called a victory? All this does is protect and help Thibeault. Screw the constituents that you take an oath to protect. Why didn’t DeMaria do something a year ago when people asked him too? He let it drag on until it was an election year to claim a “victory” and watch……….Thibeault is going to delay and delay and before you know it, November will be here. This was something for him to use for reelection. He admitted it to Mayor Moak. Why didn’t he just say you have 3-6 months to remove all C&D materials, no matter where it goes. They tied Newburyport into an agreement while there was a cease and desist at the landfill. I really don’t think they can do that legally.
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Posted - 03/29/2009 : 9:33:27 PM
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Mayor signs and runs
By Gillian Swart
Sun Mar 29, 2009
Less than 24 hours after signing a controversial settlement agreement with landfill owner New Ventures, Mayor John Moak was off to parts unknown. The mayor is on vacation and unavailable to answer any questions about his decision to reopen the Crow Lane landfill so that New Ventures owner William Thibeault can start bringing in construction waste now piling high at his business in Everett.
Moak would have done better to stick around for just a couple of days. At-Large City Councilor Kathleen O'Connor-Ives has asked for some time on next Monday's City Council agenda so she can pitch an idea to her fellow councilors. Ives wants the board to hire an attorney to take a look at Moak's decision to cut the council out and go it alone with the agreement to settle with New Ventures and with the administrative order.
According to Ward 5 City Councilor Brian Derrivan and Director of Health Jack Morris, New Ventures must still work out an agreement with the state.
Morris on Wednesday signed an administrative order, also signed by Thibeault, but the order will not be executed until New Ventures comes to an agreement with the Attorney General and the Department of Environmental Protection regarding conditions for capping the landfill.
“They still have to finalize their agreement with the state and enter it into the court,” Morris said.
Under the agreement, the city and New Ventures will “suspend all pending litigation relative to the landfill,” including Thibeault’s claim Newburyport is responsible for a hazardous waste cleanup at the site under the state’s Chapter 21E laws. Decades ago, the city had an agreement to dump municipal sewer sludge at the landfill and although no records of those disposals have been brought forth yet, Moak and others believe the city is liable for the cleanup.
It was that point, and the concern over how much such a cleanup would cost the city, which drove Moak to the bargaining table and kept him there until an agreement was reached.
Upon closure of the landfill, which is expected to be this Fall, Thiebeault will sign a covenant not to sue -- unless the city suspends, inhibits or otherwise prevents the closure of the landfill. The only exception would be if New Ventures does something that threatens public safety or health, or is guilty of something that would fall into the category of gross negligence.
While Moak pounded out that agreement with New Ventures, the company has also been having “secret” meetings with the state for several months about the closing of the landfill. Derrivan said the City Council received copies of a proposed agreement between New Ventures and the state last year, but the Council felt the 300-page agreement had no teeth and rejected it. Several months later, Moak came up with another version of an agreement with New Ventures, but again received no support from the City Council.
Negotiations between the state and New Ventures had been contingent upon the company signing an agreement with city to close the landfill. With that hurdle now passed, the focus is on how state officials handle New Ventures.
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That deal is not done,” Derrivan said on Wednesday, “the consent agreement is a moot point if Thibeault doesn’t reach a deal with the AG and DEP.”
The deal with the state includes new grading and structural requirements, said Derrivan, as well as guidelines for a mixture of construction and demolition fines and soil and a management plan. Although there are still i’s to dot and t’s to cross, there was a sense that the five year battle over the Crow Lane landfill might finally be resolved.
“We have said all along that the way to put this behind us was to allow us to close the remaining 40 percent of the landfill,” said attorney Richard “Chip” Nylen who represents Thibeault and New Ventures. “The last two years that have been spent fighting over the closure hasn’t helped anyone.” Nylen said it served no one interests to continue to dredge up the past.
Still, it is the past, and years of conflict with New Ventures over emissions of hydrogen sulfide from the landfill, that have made it impossible for neighbors to accept an agreement that will allow New Ventures to truck in more waste. For years, the neighborhood coped with odor problems and many reported health problems such as watery eyes, nausea and headaches. Some of the neighbors have expressed a sense of betrayal over the Moak’s decision to sign the agreement with Thibeault.
As word that Moak had signed the agreement with New Ventures began to make its way around the city, Ron Klondenski who has organized much of the opposition to New Ventures, sent out an e-mail to landfill neighbors.
“I think you'll see that it's pretty much unenforceable,” wrote Ron Klodenski ”It’s signed in exchange for a promise not to sue -- but no one will see that promise in writing until some distant future date when the landfill is closed. It also prevents the city from taking any meaningful action unless it can prove there's "an imminent threat to health and safety." Even if it can prove that, it will take about two weeks of negotiations before any action can take place,”
Klondenski also criticized Moak for agreeing to wait until the landfill is capped before requiring Thibeault to sign the consent not to sue under the 21E laws.
“He also told us he wouldn't sign the agreement until he had the wording of New Ventures' promise not to sue under 21E and that wording was acceptable,” wrote Klondenski. “Well, he signed this agreement, which says he won't see the wording of the promise until the landfill is closed.”
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tetris
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Posted - 03/31/2009 : 12:10:32 PM
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FRom today's Newvuryport News:
Council to hire lawyer to review landfill agreement
By Katie Farrell
Staff writer
NEWBURYPORT — The City Council will hire its own counsel to review the deal made between Mayor John Moak and the owner of the Crow Lane landfill. In a 10 to 1 vote last night, councilors said they have questions to be answered and they want to know what authority they have in the situation.
Moak notified city councilors a few weeks ago that he was going to have Health Director Jack Morris send the administrative order to New Ventures to cap the landfill. As it is an administrative order, the City Council has no power over the decision, and several councilors have criticized the mayor's move, believing they should have been involved.
Morris finalized that order last week, directing the company to "immediately undertake closure of the landfill" according to Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) regulations. New Ventures is owned by William Thibeault. Neighbors of the landfill have spoken out against the administrative order, calling it "a terrible agreement."
Last night councilors entered a debate over a measure, sponsored by at-large Councilor Kathleen O'Connor Ives, that would hire independent counsel to act on behalf of the City Council, with many making it clear they were unsure of how to vote.
O'Connor Ives said the lawyer would answer two questions: Does the mayor have the authority to circumvent the council's authority, and based on that answer, what options do councilors have in the process.
Moak is on vacation this week but indicated to councilors that he would agree to fund the expense of the council's hiring a lawyer. The council cannot enter into a contract on its own because it is a legislative body.
City Council President James Shanley set up a three-person ad-hoc committee charged with the process of finding counsel and giving updates to the full council. Councilors Donna Holaday, Barry Connell and Ives will sit on that committee. That group will need to determine how much money to ask from Moak to hire the lawyer and the scope of that work to give to the attorney.
As the lengthy discussion on the council floor moved forward, it was clear councilors were changing their minds and wrestling with what action to take, as many stated they were still unsure as to how they would vote.
Ward 5 Councilor Brian Derrivan, who represents the area of the city where the landfill is, called the move to hire a lawyer "too little, too late."
New Ventures is close to signing the agreement with the state that will allow more debris to be brought into the city, he said, and within four to five weeks as the councilors sought a lawyer and got an opinion, the capping process would be moving forward.
"What direction are we headed and where is the end date?" he asked.
Derrivan said he remains concerned about New Ventures following through on capping the landfill, but said he has faith in the health department, which will monitor the process. If the city moves into court to fight over the Host Community Agreement and lost that fight, Derrivan said, the state's DEP would take over the project and the city would have no control over what was done.
O'Connor Ives said the council couldn't move forward with hiring an attorney until Moak announced his intent to seek the order. "I don't think it's too late, I think (the timing) is perfect," she said.
Ward 2 Councilor Greg Earls called the hiring of a lawyer by the council "a peer review" and "a check and balance" — which is the role of the council, he said. The hiring would verify the mayor's work, which is for the benefit of the city, Earls said.
At-large Councilor Tom Jones said the state's DEP made the Host Community Agreement with New Ventures in 2002, which stated the capping would be finished in 30 months of that date, and that agreement has never been complied with.
Why would the city give up control over the document it has to control the situation and how the capping is done and its ability to enforce that contract? Jones asked.
"What we are doing is quitting," he said.
At-large Councilor Steve Hutcheson questioned what would happen if the lawyer came back and reported that the mayor's deal was wrong. "Are we willing to take the next step (and) sue the mayor?," he asked.
The council will decide the next move as a group, O'Connor Ives said. "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. We're not there yet."
At-large Councilor Donna Holaday said she was ready to vote against O'Connor Ives' request in the days leading up to the meeting. But after listening to the debate, she said, it's clear the council's role is to act on behalf of the city's residents.
"We don't live there," she said. "We're not subject to that on a daily basis."
The task of finding a lawyer qualified to take on the difficult case will be tough, Holaday noted. "This is not easy litigation."
At the end of the landfill case, Derrivan said, the only winner will be New Ventures.
"In the end, Newburyport's going to lose," he said. "In the end, no one's going to be happy. Unfortunately, we have put ourselves in this difficult situation; there's no right answer. There's no right move."
Ward 6 Councilor Tom O'Brien cast the only dissenting vote. |
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tetris
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Posted - 04/17/2009 : 09:04:47 AM
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A couple of posts from Gillian Swart's blog (You must be logged in to see this link.) just to keep us up to date on what's happening in Newburyport:
Monday, April 13, 2009
Mayor puts cap on order review
The Daily News is reporting today that the mayor is allowing $5,000 to the City Council to see if he made a 'boo-boo' with the administrative order.
Here's the whole blurb from the DN's "City Notebook:"
Mayor John Moak said last week he believes a $5,000 cap for the City Council to use for an attorney to review the administrative order issued by the Health Department to New Ventures, owner of the Crow Lane landfill, was fair given the city's financial state.
"We're all struggling," Moak said.
The city had good legal representation through the entire negotiation process with New Ventures, the mayor said. City councilors agreed to hire their own attorney to review the legality of the move by Moak and Health Director Jack Morris.
Moak notified city councilors a few weeks ago that he was going to have Morris send the administrative order to New Ventures to cap the Crow Lane landfill. As it is an administrative order, the City Council has no power over the decision, and several councilors have criticized the mayor's move, feeling they should have been involved.
Well, since Councillor Ives said that they were only looking for the answer to 2 questions, I guess it is a fair amount.
Sounds like he doesn't expect they will find that he did anything wrong ...
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
Landfill update
At the City Council meeting last night, Councillor Larry McCavitt asked about the status of the landfill - which was good, because I was wondering myself.
"No change," was the answer.
Afterwards, a snowy owl told me that New Ventures is revved up to go and is stockpiling grading and shaping material at the site. That's not C&D fines. There's still a cease and desist order on the C&D fines.
Apparently NV has to do test borings on the berm before they can proceed with closing the landfill.
But they can't do anything until they sign that agreement with the Attorney General and DEP. The AG must be freaking out about all this litigation.
Looks as if Brian Derrivan was right when he said it could take weeks. Director of Health Jack Morris said it would be days ... so I had the Current's editor take out from my story the "but don't expect trucks to be rolling in anytime soon."
Man ... hey, what's going on in Everett? I think someone said there would be news from there, after last night's meeting of the Alderman ... |
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Posted - 04/21/2009 : 8:49:04 PM
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Published: April 21, 2009 03:54 am
Landfill neighbor resigns from board, raps mayor
Newburyport City Notebook
Katie Farrell
Wildwood Drive resident Ron Klodenski has resigned from an advisory committee formed to monitor the happenings of the Crow Lane landfill.
Klodenski said he made the decision to step down after Mayor John Moak moved ahead and ordered Health Director Jack Morris to file an administrative order, against the wishes of the committee.
In the last several weeks, Klodenski said, it appears that Moak and Morris aren't interested in attending the committee meetings and speaking with the group.
"Over the past several years, this advisory group of concerned and thoughtful citizen volunteers has spent hundreds of hours of personal time attempting to provide you and other mayors with the information they need to make wise decisions regarding the capping and closing of the Crow Lane landfill," Klodenski wrote in an e-mail to Moak and copied to other members of the community. "Unfortunately, I've concluded that further efforts to work with your administration on this issue will be a waste of time because they are unlikely to have any effect on your decision-making. While I regret your determination to move forward on this issue without meaningful consultation with anyone other than the city's attorney, I wish you success in resolving the landfill issue promptly — for the sake of all Newburyport residents."
The committee was formed by former mayor Mary Anne Clancy in 2005.
A subcommittee of three councilors has drafted a letter outlining the scope of opinion they are seeking from a lawyer regarding Crow Lane landfill, At-large Councilor Kathleen O'Connor Ives said last week.
Councilors agreed to hire their own counsel to review a deal made between Moak and the owner of the Crow Lane landfill, saying they have questions to be answered and they want to know what authority they have in the situation. Moak has ordered Health Director Morris to send the administrative order to New Ventures to cap the landfill. As it is an administrative order, the City Council has no power over the decision,
Ives said the committee will send a mailing to qualified attorneys, seeking responses to their request. From there, they will hire a lawyer and get an opinion.
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massdee
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 8:22:47 PM
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Wednesday, April 22, 2009
It's here already!
I just realized that the contempt hearing for New Ventures starts tomorrow in Suffolk Superior Court.
Seems like just a couple of weeks ago we were thinking it was too far in the future ...
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 07:13:34 AM
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From Tuesday's Newburyport News:
State drops contempt case against landfill owner
By Katie Farrell
Staff writer
NEWBURYPORT — The state attorney general's office last week dismissed its case against New Ventures, the owner and operator of the Crow Lane landfill, scheduled to head before a judge for a two-day trial.
Last fall, the state sought a contempt order against New Ventures, saying the company had ignored the 2006 preliminary injunction issued in Suffolk Superior Court and failed to remedy nearly all of the violations listed in an Aug. 26 notice sent by the state Department of Environmental Protection.
Jill Butterworth, deputy press secretary for Attorney General Martha Coakley, said yesterday the office dismissed without prejudice its contempt claims against New Ventures LLC.
A dismissal without prejudice allows the commonwealth to reassert the allegations at a later time if appropriate or necessary, she added in an e-mail. Butterworth declined further comment.
The order would have forced New Ventures to do all the tasks it agreed to but has failed to do: control smelly liquids coming out of the landfill, respond to odor complaints and operate the landfill gas-control system to properly filter noxious hydrogen sulfide emissions.
New Ventures agreed to the preliminary injunction that set strict guidelines for the closure of the landfill and for measures to control the foul odors that have troubled the landfill's neighbors. The terms were negotiated with the state's attorney general's office and the DEP. New Ventures has broken the requirements of the preliminary injunction before and has missed some deadlines, leading the attorney general's office to warn the company in the past.
Meanwhile, city officials are moving ahead to try to resolve their own issues with New Ventures.
In March, Mayor John Moak asked Health Director Jack Morris to file an administrative order. City officials hope that by filing the order, the landfill will be capped by the fall, ending years of health problems and a lingering stench affecting the more than 120 homes in the neighborhood. |
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tetris
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 07:16:45 AM
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From Wednesday's Newburyport News:
Boston law firm to review mayor's order
By Katie Farrell
Staff writer
NEWBURYPORT — The City Council will hire a Boston law firm to review the terms of the mayor's administrative order to cap the landfill.
At-large City Councilor Kathleen O'Connor Ives told the council Monday that the three-member advisory board formed to find independent legal counsel had selected McGregor and Associates of Boston, a firm specializing in environmental law with experience with municipal clients.
O'Connor Ives said the mayor is drafting a letter confirming the terms of the agreement. The mayor is the only person who can sign a contract for the city. The City Council cannot make a hire on its own.
Moak has given the City Council a $5,000 cap for the legal services.
Moak notified city councilors recently that he was going to have Health Director Jack Morris send an administrative order to New Ventures to cap the Crow Lane landfill. As it is an administrative order, the City Council has no power over the decision, and several councilors have criticized the mayor's move, believing they should have been involved.
O'Connor Ives said the council-hired lawyer will answer two questions: Does the mayor have the authority to circumvent the council's authority, and based on that answer, what options do councilors have in the process.
"I think, regardless of what the answer is, I think this going to be really, really useful for everyone on the council to have an understanding on what the administrative order really means for the council and their role," O'Connor Ives said.
The advisory committee solicited responses from six law firms and got four responses, she said.
The City Council will provide McGregor and Associates with the documents that they have pertaining to the landfill, as a means to save some money so the firm won't need to spend time pulling documents, O'Connor Ives said. All the information is public record. |
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Tails
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 9:39:29 PM
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Looks like Mr. Thibeault may have more bumps in the road. I hope the mayor finishes up his victory laps soon.
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As for Wood Waste, it stinks beyond belief. Is anyone monitoring this on a daily basis, and if so, how can you call that odor control? I also thought odor control was part of the agreement? |
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tetris
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 12:06:50 AM
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Lots of new landfill information on Gillian Swart's blog (You must be logged in to see this link.). There's way too much info to reproduce here. But, I will re-post a link that she has to a webpage that contains links to more information about the current agreement between the Commonwealth and New Ventures than even I want to read (You must be logged in to see this link.). Might be good for reference purposes though. However, the most interesting new piece of information that I found on her site was that Mayor Moak might be leaving his position in the city...voluntarily. He's a finalist for the open city manager position in Winthrop. I can't imagine that the people of Newburyport are happy about that. Or maybe they are. This stuff makes my head swim.
Between all this stuff and the information in the link that Tails posted, I don't know what to think. And it's too much for me to even try to sort out; I think I'll leave that for our friends in Newburyport to deal with. God, do I feel for those poor people. All I can say is that I hope that we haven't counted our chickens before they hatched here in Everett. |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 08:18:20 AM
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Is there a similar document for Everett?
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Tails
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 09:12:01 AM
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With comments already coming from Newburyport like this and the new lawyer stating "Landfill host agreement still in effect"...... it wont be long.
My heart breaks for the Newburyport residents.
The stuff coming from Everett already smells. I personally witnessed several trucks come in this past Saturday and every one of them smelled like rotten eggs. It wasn't just the dump either, it was each truck.
I thought they were 'perfuming' the stuff in Everett ...
Oh - and Saturday?
The HCA specifically states in section 3.8 that "there are no truck deliveries on Saturdays," I read in another email.
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New Ventures/Crow lane landfill
