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carlost everett
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 5:27:18 PM
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To be honest, I'm totally tired of the Stat Show myself. Add that to the BOA and CC Show too. Lets face it, we've been being lied to for four years now. They really think that if they say it, its the truth. Its time that we stop believing the lies and getting down to the truth. I'm totally tired of watching them say one thing on television as the city is going downhill. |
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justme
Advanced Member
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 8:09:22 PM
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Cruller DaVille; When I asked you to take it down a notch, I didn't mean to imply you were talking down to people. The problem is that I have a hard time understanding what you're trying to get across with your comments. I'm not lacking in intelligence however, I'm unable to decipher the majority of your posts.
I didn't move to Everett until after my kids were out of school and actually know a very small number of people in the city. I don't work in the city and, although I do business with some local merchants, and am certainly interested in what our politicians are doing, I don't know the inside scoop as so many here seem to.
According to the post that started this dialogue, I'm the one eyed blind man..........
I'm here looking looking for information so I can cast intelligent votes. So who is Stat pushing and would having them elected be any worse than what we have with Freddie stacking the deck? |
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Cruller DaVille
Senior Member
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 9:54:56 PM
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I guess you are right Justme. I forgot that many people may not know the players like many of us who have lived here our whole lifes do. I, in no way, mean to imply that to be a negative. It is shortsighted of me to imply that.
Anyway......from what is out there... the individuals running against the incumbants are the ones Stat is putting together. So, if you go down that list that someone above provided, you'll see those names. Honestly, 90% of those names I've never heard of; many people I've spoken to havent heard of them either. They are not people who have been communally involved, they've been convinced to run with this less than professional agenda Stat is proposing, with the promise that he'll do all the work for them. Not good!!!!!!!
I'm not arguing that the majority of the individuals presently serving aren't pro admin; however, that being said, as far as the administration of the schools are concerned, they do a good job and these gentlemen are absolute professionals. All you have to do is watch last weeks meeting.. OMG how horrific can you get? These men, many who have served for many years, are all educated and well spoken individuals and lets not forget, up until last year, did the job without renumeration. I know that my grandchildren are having positive experiences at the Lafayette and Webster Schools respectively.
Anyway, my personal biggest gripe is that Stat has been benefitting for years from this disgruntled ex principal Andronucci who (as the story goes) had a hard on for FFF and the School Board because he didn't become an Assistant Super. This story was well documented in the locals back in the day. What I say is.... Hey... get over it. We've all been there; sometimes you just don't get what we want and on top of that, they say there were issues with the guy when he was a principal.
From that time on, he backed Stat who, I must say, if you truly listen to him at ANY meeting; you know he's being fed information and totally doesn't make sense. I, for one am very tired of it; honestly. His contributions are nill except for casting negative personal disbursions on the Super and his own colleagues. He truly doesn't know parliamentary procedure or how to play nice with others. He did the same thing on the BOA.
I feel slighted truthfully. He's our State Rep and having gotten use to always being represented by strong leaders who you could call and get things done am sorely disappointed that this man took two years to take the floor of the House to speak on ANY issue. He's damaged our image up on the hill and I feel our city is the worse for it.
I'm of the age when leaders were strong and had back bone. I guess I'm showing my age; however, I just dont "feel" that feeling of competency from him and I'm sorely disappointed with the lack of intestinal fortitude showing in him and many of our public officials today. The truth be told, hanging in the local bars, partying off the wall and having a litany of accidents, drunk driving incidents and other "colorful" run ins squashed just is not my idea of leadership. On top of that the lies that come out of their mouths are nothing but destructive, ill conceived, and total fabrications of the truth. He should look at the establishments he operates and pay attention to the clientele coming out of them.
I've watched for years as people regergitate information about air conditioners and other "alleged" issues. They conveniently don't speak of the things these stone throwers have done. I, for one, dont condone any kind of wrong doing; however, you have to admit that this city has a propencity for being one eyed (and blurry at that) and I just think its wrong. We are horrible! We actually accept wrong doing from some and drag others to the guillotine for beheading. Isn't that hypocritical to the tenth degree? If we're going to really investigate and speak of wrong doing, we should do it comprehensively.
Okay, I've done it again and my wife is absolutely right, I go on and on once I start. The bottom line is that I'm not willing to support a slate of individuals without a platform of their own. I also feel that public service is something in ones fiber and these people being solicited to run are just being asked to do so to push the agenda of Stat and Andronucci. That's just not good enough for me. I want more for my city and my grandchildren. I'd also like an individual who is a full time State Representative too. The Commonwealth is in an uproar. We need and deserve nothing less.
Just MY Humble Opinion.......
"Cruller DaHville"
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Posted - 08/02/2009 : 9:23:05 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Cruller DaVille
I guess you are right Justme. I forgot that many people may not know the players like many of us who have lived here our whole lifes do. I, in no way, mean to imply that to be a negative. It is shortsighted of me to imply that.
Anyway......from what is out there... the individuals running against the incumbants are the ones Stat is putting together. So, if you go down that list that someone above provided, you'll see those names. Honestly, 90% of those names I've never heard of; many people I've spoken to havent heard of them either. They are not people who have been communally involved, they've been convinced to run with this less than professional agenda Stat is proposing, with the promise that he'll do all the work for them. Not good!!!!!!!
I'm not arguing that the majority of the individuals presently serving aren't pro admin; however, that being said, as far as the administration of the schools are concerned, they do a good job and these gentlemen are absolute professionals. All you have to do is watch last weeks meeting.. OMG how horrific can you get? These men, many who have served for many years, are all educated and well spoken individuals and lets not forget, up until last year, did the job without renumeration. I know that my grandchildren are having positive experiences at the Lafayette and Webster Schools respectively.
Anyway, my personal biggest gripe is that Stat has been benefitting for years from this disgruntled ex principal Andronucci who (as the story goes) had a hard on for FFF and the School Board because he didn't become an Assistant Super. This story was well documented in the locals back in the day. What I say is.... Hey... get over it. We've all been there; sometimes you just don't get what we want and on top of that, they say there were issues with the guy when he was a principal.
From that time on, he backed Stat who, I must say, if you truly listen to him at ANY meeting; you know he's being fed information and totally doesn't make sense. I, for one am very tired of it; honestly. His contributions are nill except for casting negative personal disbursions on the Super and his own colleagues. He truly doesn't know parliamentary procedure or how to play nice with others. He did the same thing on the BOA.
I feel slighted truthfully. He's our State Rep and having gotten use to always being represented by strong leaders who you could call and get things done am sorely disappointed that this man took two years to take the floor of the House to speak on ANY issue. He's damaged our image up on the hill and I feel our city is the worse for it.
I'm of the age when leaders were strong and had back bone. I guess I'm showing my age; however, I just dont "feel" that feeling of competency from him and I'm sorely disappointed with the lack of intestinal fortitude showing in him and many of our public officials today. The truth be told, hanging in the local bars, partying off the wall and having a litany of accidents, drunk driving incidents and other "colorful" run ins squashed just is not my idea of leadership. On top of that the lies that come out of their mouths are nothing but destructive, ill conceived, and total fabrications of the truth. He should look at the establishments he operates and pay attention to the clientele coming out of them.
I've watched for years as people regergitate information about air conditioners and other "alleged" issues. They conveniently don't speak of the things these stone throwers have done. I, for one, dont condone any kind of wrong doing; however, you have to admit that this city has a propencity for being one eyed (and blurry at that) and I just think its wrong. We are horrible! We actually accept wrong doing from some and drag others to the guillotine for beheading. Isn't that hypocritical to the tenth degree? If we're going to really investigate and speak of wrong doing, we should do it comprehensively.
Okay, I've done it again and my wife is absolutely right, I go on and on once I start. The bottom line is that I'm not willing to support a slate of individuals without a platform of their own. I also feel that public service is something in ones fiber and these people being solicited to run are just being asked to do so to push the agenda of Stat and Andronucci. That's just not good enough for me. I want more for my city and my grandchildren. I'd also like an individual who is a full time State Representative too. The Commonwealth is in an uproar. We need and deserve nothing less.
Just MY Humble Opinion.......
"Cruller DaHville"
I agree that we can do without the dramatics at school committee meetings but unequivocally disagree with your FFF "alleged" issues.
I've watched for years as people regergitate information about air conditioners and other "alleged" issues.
He is well known him and Lorna DeFeo have public complaints in the ethics commission. All you have to do is look it up. All I hear is how bad this mayor is doing and how hes going to be removed from office but I dont see it and I dont see his name on the ethics site like I do FFF and DeFeo. Im not thrilled with whats happening at city hall and I do understand a little about politics. Im seeing alot of allegations getting tosed around with no proof or evidence and thats just not right. I see proof and evidence that FFF should have been removed long ago. |
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justme
Advanced Member
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 05:45:52 AM
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Sorry Cruller, I think you've got a few things twisted. Yes, Stat is disruptive at School Committee meetings but there is a valid reason and choosing to ignore it doesn't change that. Freddie and Lorna DeFeo should have been removed years ago AND they should have lost their pensions.
I'm glad your pleased with the "positive experiences" your grandchildren are receiving. I'm not sure why you credit Freddie. I'm more inclined to believe you should thank their teachers for that while at the same time being concerned with how badly ranked our schools are........
I also disagree with your premise that people are accepting wrong doing from some but not others. (just not Freddie) I've lived in Everett since John McCarthy was mayor. I heard a lot of things about him but there was never any indication of wrongdoing. Then we had........... Ragucci who was investigated and never charged with anything. hanlon who made a fool of himself and the city but was never charged with anything. DiMaria who should be investigated and definitely can be charged with stupidity, but it's too soon to know where he'll end up.
We can't do anything............. That's up the the AG and the ethics commission and they apparently do not have sufficient evidence to bring charges against anyone else. Freddie & Lorna hold that dubious distinction!
Can someone be specific relative to who Stat is backing? I'd certainly consider voting for them if it means there's a chance it will get Freddie out of here............. |
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tetris
Moderator
2040 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 8:15:55 PM
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This week’s Advocate contained the final list of names for this fall’s ballot.
Highlights/Changes/Comments from the prior list:
- A few notable names missing from the final list (Terri Morris, Gregory, Hickey, Stephanie Smith) - Only one primary race (Ward 2 Alderman)
- Two candidates for multiple offices (Marcus, Schlosberg)
- The Charter Review list whittled down to 22 names
Final list according to the Advocate:
Charter Review:
James P. Murphy Dorothy Martin Joseph Nolette Stephen Bruce Patricia Foley Dorothy Martin Long Ronald Keohan Jr. Alfred Lattanzi Jason Marcus Claire Laidlaw Larry Cardinale David Pretti John F. Hanlon Doreen Kelly Lisa M. Tufts Frances Ryan Michael Gilbert Thomas Mills III George Desiderio Bennie P. Schiavo Robert E. Sansone Paul Schlosberg
Mayor: Carlo DeMaria Jr.
Board of Alderman:
At Large Joseph W. McGonagle Domenic Puleo
Ward 1 Wayne Matewsky Mille J. Cardello
Ward 2 Stephen Simonelli Michael Mangan Dennis DiBiase
Ward 3 Michael K. Marchese
Ward 4 L. Charles DiPerri (Chuck)
Ward 5 Robert Van Campen
Ward 6 Salvatore Sachetta
School Committee:
At Large Michael Phillips Richard Baniewicz Lester MacLaughlin Joseph Santagate Stephen “Stat” Smith John E. Collins Jr.
Ward 1 Allen Panarese Margaret Cornelio
Ward 2 Joseph Guliano Joseph A. LaMonica
Ward 3 Frank Parker
Ward 4 David Ela Jr. Joseph Internicola
Ward 5 Alexander "Sandro" Colarusso Ralph Shalsi Jr.
Ward 6 Robert Corriero J. Al Spaulding
Common Council:
Ward 1 Kenneth Giannelli Peter Napolitano Sergio Cornelio
Ward 2 Eloy "Lou" Sierra Joe King Jason Marcus Nicholas Paul Saia
Ward 3 Leonard Jordan Rosemary Miller Sal DiDomenico Carlie Smith
Ward 4 Adam Ragucci Stacy Caralis Daniel J. Napolitano Len LoRusso Leo McKinnon
Ward 5 Lorrie Bruno Rosa DiFlorio Nicholas Montesano William Cardello Philip L. Morris Paul Schlosberg
Ward 6 Anthony Ranieri Cynthia Sarnie Katherine Tomassi Hicks Christian Costa |
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Tails
Administrator
2682 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2009 : 10:58:50 PM
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Mike Mangan should just drop out and save the taxpayers 40K. He already has an appointed position, appointed by the mayor. It may be legal, but to me it's a conflict. Let the other two that are not running to favor the mayor, just have an election. |
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cozulady
Senior Member
165 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2009 : 09:40:44 AM
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Where is that $40,000 figure coming from? Is that the salary for a seat on the BOA? Maybe I should consider running. Please explain. |
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Fran
Senior Member
250 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2009 : 10:30:00 AM
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$40K is grossly exaggerated. Why is OK for someone who is against the mayor but not one who is in favor? Vote for the candidate on their own personal merit. |
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Tails
Administrator
2682 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2009 : 10:56:35 AM
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That was the figure I heard when Billy Cardello was trying to do away with primary’s. |
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massdee
Moderator
5299 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 11:04:19 AM
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There are some names that will be appearing on the ballot that I don't know. Anyone have any background for the following candidates?
Alderman at Large Dominic Puleo
Alderman W-2 Dennis DiBiasi
Common Council W-5 Nicholas Montesano
School Committee
At Large John Collins Joseph Santagate
W-1 Margaret Cornelio
W-2 Joseph La Monica
W-4 Joseph Internicola
W-5 Ralph Shalsi
W-6 J. Al Spaulding (is this the former building inspector?)
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waterboy
Senior Member
101 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 12:11:09 PM
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puelo carlo demaria supporter, never heard of dennis dibiase but live in malden gave his mother's address nicholas montesano just a kid who needs insurance, john collins I think is barbara collins son another demaira supporter, santigate lorrie bruno's brother in law, cornelio dn't know, joe lamonica demaria supporter, internicola police officer, ralph shalsi related to the ragucci's al spaulding vote for him |
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massdee
Moderator
5299 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 5:12:12 PM
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John Collins is not Barbara Collins son, that I know. In the last election, Mrs Collins supported McGonagle. When did she become a DeMaria supporter?
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waterboy
Senior Member
101 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 5:32:16 PM
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well she has a son name john there could be two, and if you get the papers you would of seen her picture from the kick off party, I was shocked to but, as you know many people play both sides |
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massdee
Moderator
5299 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 5:47:07 PM
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Since the mayor is running unopposed this time around, I guess a lot of people might be seen at his times. I was just surprised about Mrs Collins. From what I was told this John Collins is an older gentleman.
"Deb" |
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