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massdee
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Posted - 10/21/2011 : 4:30:07 PM
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| So does anyone think Schlosberg will show up at the BOA meeting? |
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cozulady
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 Posted - 10/21/2011 : 4:35:24 PM
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| Not likely! |
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waterboy
Senior Member
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Posted - 10/21/2011 : 5:34:52 PM
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| If he does we could have a major snowstorm or should I say SnowJob |
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massdee
Moderator
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Posted - 10/21/2011 : 6:09:57 PM
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Originally posted by waterboy
If he does we could have a major snowstorm or should I say SnowJob
So true, too funny! |
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massdee
Moderator
5299 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2011 : 8:15:08 PM
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| Is anyone else more confused after listening to Mr Sansone? I know I am. |
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justme
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Posted - 10/24/2011 : 8:45:04 PM
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Originally posted by massdee
Is anyone else more confused after listening to Mr Sansone? I know I am.
Me!
Why on earth did they send him to answer the questions? He sounds like a total idiot. Is he?
I have a problem with members of the Common Council & Board of Alderman expressing their opinion about the charter question during meetings. It's natural for them to disagree with eliminating their position but I don't think they should be doing it on TV.
They're all there to represent the citizens of this city & until it's voted on, their opinion is not necessarily the opinion of their constituents. |
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tetris
Moderator
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Posted - 10/24/2011 : 9:32:26 PM
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| Thank God I'm on self-imposed "radio-silence" concerning the charter. |
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massdee
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 11:25:43 AM
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I am really surprised with Mr Sansone. He is a retired principal of one of our former elementary schools. You would have thought he could answer some very simple questions. What a disgrace.
I also have a problem with our elected officials giving there opinion on a ballot issue during a meeting. Outside of city hall is fine. |
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Tails
Administrator
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 11:44:49 AM
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What I got out of Sansone is "the recall" is Bull ****!
If a mayor gets reelected do they still have to wait 6 months and collect 250 signatures to have a special election costing the taxpayers at minimum 30 grand to have a special election? All I have to say if it's the current mayor... heaven help any person that starts that kind of petition.
There's going to be no cost saving here in the long run. Salaries will increase in replacement of the health insurance....the members will be over worked since those 11 are going to have to pick up the slack that 25 others did... plus have their own jobs and family. We WILL have less representation I don't care how Sansone spins it. I''m not being mean, but he was the worst speaker to speak on charter. I could not understand a word he said and he had to quote directly from the charter. He did not even know about the changes. I don't trust this group and it's too much drastic changes all at once. If this does not pass, the 4-year term is what blew it and this farce of a recall.
We have a recall now and that's a 2 year term for mayor. We are going to the polls every two years anyway so the only thing I see in a recall is A LOT of time, expense to the taxpayer and concern for the safety of the person that starts a recall. This is not cost effective at all and would be the worse thing in this city if charter passes. I heard from numerous people that the Chairman of the Charter Commission, the consultant they hired had private meetings with the mayor, and the superintendent of schools. This has become too political and these parties involved are to blame! It was those people that started it with the signs (Vote YES on Charter) I don't blame that Vote NO on Charter committee for starting one up too. But the Vote YES started it first..... and this whole thing has become bogus and deceptive. Big Vote NO here. |
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justme
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 12:33:42 PM
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So you're saying Schlosberg & the consultant were able to blow smoke at enough of the other commission members to turn it into a farce & screw us over?
I'm not originally from this city & don't know the system or the players they way so many of you do so help me out please............ Who gains what by that kind of a move? |
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Tails
Administrator
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 1:03:25 PM
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Originally posted by justme
So you're saying Schlosberg & the consultant were able to blow smoke at enough of the other commission members to turn it into a farce & screw us over?
I'm not originally from this city & don't know the system or the players they way so many of you do so help me out please............ Who gains what by that kind of a move?
The people who gain are the mayor and the superintendent.
I know there was more than one meeting with the mayor, Schlosberg and the Consultant. They meet.....and ask what they want. The mayor wants a 4 year term and the superintendent wants the mayor to not be a voting member of the school committee. That's exactly how it played out on the taxpayers dime. 10 grand to pay this guy for the commission to get out of doing their own research. All the questions asked of him could easily have been found online or contacting elected officials. Our proposed Charter is almost an exact replica of Melrose. It's a simple cut and paste.....change Melrose to Everett, and he gets paid 10 grand for that? He was supposed to write "our "charter, and what was best for this city, not copy other cites charters. Newburyport dumped him and I wish we followed their lead. In my opinion, it's a misuse of taxpayer dollars so the Grand Poobah's get what they want and basically screw everyone else. it's a real shame because this had the potential to do something good in this city, but all the wrong people were elected... somehow...... |
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massdee
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 1:10:55 PM
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Here's the list of Charter Commission members:
Chairman: Paul Schlosberg
Vice Chair: Robert Sansone
Clerk: Alfred Lattanzi
Members:
Michael Bono
John Hanlon
Joseph Hickey
Dorothy Martin Long
Jason Marcus
Bennie Schiavo
That group alone should tell you something... |
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justme
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 1:22:24 PM
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More questions.......
What does the superintendent gain by the mayor not having a vote on the school committee?
Is Carlo so sure of re-election this year & 2 years from now that the 4 year term means that much to him? |
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justme
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 1:27:14 PM
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Originally posted by massdee
Here's the list of Charter Commission members:
Chairman: Paul Schlosberg
Vice Chair: Robert Sansone
Clerk: Alfred Lattanzi
Members:
Michael Bono
John Hanlon
Joseph Hickey
Dorothy Martin Long
Jason Marcus
Bennie Schiavo
That group alone should tell you something...
It only helps when you know all the players. I know some of them but not all. I guess what the real problem is the committee was made up of too many politicians? |
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massdee
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5299 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2011 : 1:51:38 PM
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| Too many politicians and too many that owe the administration. The Charter Commission was compromised from day one. In my opinion. |
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2011 Board of Aldermen
