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justme
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 Posted - 10/25/2011 : 2:00:08 PM
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I never did understand why some of them were elected. I guess it was name recognition but it sure isn't doing the city any good.
I thought I had this all figured out but I'm beginning to see things a bit differently now................ |
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massdee
Moderator
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 3:36:50 PM
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| I was all for it in the beginning too. The more I looked into the more my opinion shifted. I am now firmly against it. The one thing that Mr Sansone said last night that made sense, "it became too political". |
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justme
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 3:50:24 PM
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What really stinks is that it was time! The current charter doesn't do the job anymore & needs to be fixed.
What makes it worse is that so many of our elected officials are there for their benefit, not ours....... I hoped that a smaller group would mean higher quality but it's certainly not looking good! |
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massdee
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 4:13:54 PM
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I really believe it doesn't matter if it's twenty-five or eleven. They will still be elected by popularity and not qualifications. No matter which way the charter vote goes, that will not change.
I feel there are other issues in there that are even more important. One is, "The mayor would have a number of new responsibilities, most notably in the area of city finances." That one sentence scares the heck out of me...
It's on page 2 of the Charter Booklet under the subheading Mayor. |
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justme
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 4:36:26 PM
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Yes, that sentence scared me as well but when I read further, I tied it to section 3-5 (a) & that stopped the panic. The reason I did that was because it was the only other place I saw anything referring to city finances.
I didn't read every word so if I missed something, please feel free to let me know....... |
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Middle-Man 1
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 8:54:41 PM
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| In the interest of disclosure I have a friend on the Charter Commission. That being said I don't believe anyone in their right mind will want to serve on any of these commissions in the future. I mean, they get ELECTED. If there were better canidates who were they? Why werent they voted in? We have local buisness owners, City Council members past and present, a former mayor ( who by the way is no friend of the current administration )They put in a large number of hours and attend numerous meetings to discuss the issues, spending time away from their families. They don't get paid a thin dime. And they get bashed up one side and down the other for their trouble. I concede the result for some people may be a little less than perfect but cut them some slack. |
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justme
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 9:09:27 PM
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Originally posted by Middle-Man 1
In the interest of disclosure I have a friend on the Charter Commission. That being said I don't believe anyone in their right mind will want to serve on any of these commissions in the future. I mean, they get ELECTED. If there were better candidates who were they? Why weren't they voted in? We have local business owners, City Council members past and present, a former mayor ( who by the way is no friend of the current administration )They put in a large number of hours and attend numerous meetings to discuss the issues, spending time away from their families. They don't get paid a thin dime. And they get bashed up one side and down the other for their trouble. I concede the result for some people may be a little less than perfect but cut them some slack.
Yes, a lot of time was spent by these people however it appears the commission may have been compromised by the current administration. We know John Hanlon probably didn't play but there are others that very likely did. Lattanzi is insured through his wife who works in Carlos office. Joe Hickey owes his job to Carlo. Sansone was a school principal so Freddie probably has him wrapped up. Schlosberg will go to the highest bidder & Marcus is in Carlo's pocket. Isn't there a Schiavo in Carlos office as well? I don't know Martin Long or Bono but they would be the minority vote so they lose........... |
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Middle-Man 1
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 9:23:39 PM
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| I hear you. But what you say is true now was also true when these people were elected wasnt it? And who were the other candidates that should be there instead? Not a long line of quality people who want to give their time for free I'm guessing. Everett politics being what its always been why werent others elected into these positions to stop the perceived "bag job" for the mayor? |
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massdee
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 9:41:45 PM
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If I remember correctly, there was quite a list of people running for the Charter Commission. I think what happened, it came down to name recognition. The people who wanted to do it who weren't connected anywhere really didn't have a shot.
Justme, Dorothy Martin Long used to be on the School Committee some years back. I don't know Mr Bono. |
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justme
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10/26/2011 : 05:36:47 AM
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Middle-Man 1 you're being obtuse.
That's what I said earlier massdee............ There were a lot of "unknown" people on the ballot & they're still unknown. Amazingly (to me anyway), people voted for names they recognized like a one term, incompetent mayor & a former councilman/city employee who knows everything about everything.
It's obviously a no win situation. If people don't know you, they won't vote for you............ Remember the Eddie Murphy movie about the crook who was elected to the senate because he had the same name as a decease politician? That's probably the only way we could have gotten anyone without an agenda or connection on the commission! |
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Middle-Man 1
Senior Member
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Posted - 10/26/2011 : 10:03:01 PM
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| Hmm. I don't often get called obtuse. I'm thick skinned though and don't mind taking a few elbows when I'm playing ball, lol. This seems to be going around in circles a little bit but maybe people that were "unknown" should have campaigned a little harder and made themselves known. That is how it works. Everyone is unknown at one time before the become sombody. In any event, in the end, it all comes back to the voters. It is THEIR responsibility to do their due diligence. They elected this Charter Commission. If the voters didnt care enough to analyze all the candidates properly and the other unknown candidates didnt bother to campaign hard enough and give people a solid alternative then who's to blame? I'll even concede you have a point that SOME of the members may be political players. I'm just a little bothered by the broad brush being used every time the Charter Commission is brought up becuase I know some of them had nothing but the best intentions and gave their time because they actually care about the City of Everett and had a sense of civic duty. |
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2011 : 05:54:48 AM
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You may be right about the unknowns not campaigning enough but it's a catch 22. If they knew how to campaign, they probably would be politically connected in some form or fashion.
Either way, I'll gladly acknowledge that there was a lot of time involved with no compensation. I'll further state that I do believe the intention of most committee members was to do something good for the city.
Unfortunately, I seriously doubt they were ever able to come together as a cohesive group. I imagine the loudest, most stubborn & determined of them fought, argued & literally held their breath like a 3 year old until they got their way!
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tetris
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 4:11:42 PM
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REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2011, 7:00 PM, PETER J. MCCARREN MEMORIAL CHAMBERS, EVERETT, MA 02149
COMMUNICATIONS FROM HIS HONOR THE MAYOR
1. A0201-11 Order/s/Councilor Sergio Cornelio, as President
To accept the donation totaling $1,000.00 from CDM to the 9/11 Memorial Project in Everett Square.
PAPERS FROM THE COMMON COUNCIL
2. C0185-11 Order/s/Councilor Sergio Cornelio, as President
To accept the donation of $300.00 from the Carmen A. Schiavo Club to the City of Everett's Department of Veteran Services Gift Account. (Passed sent up for concurrence.)
3. C0186-11 Order/s/Councilor Sergio Cornelio, as President
To accept a donation of $65.00 to the City of Everett's Department of Veteran Services from the Ragucci Family. (Passed sent up for concurrence.)
4. C0187-11 Ordinance/s/Councilors David Rodrigues, Daniel Napolitano, Adam Ragucci and Alderman Robert Van Campen
To add Section 13A-95.0(h) Costs of Police and Inspectional Services Responses to Problem Properties. (Further Amended, Enrolled, as amended, sent up for concurrence, reconsideration failed).
COMMITTEE REPORTS
5. A0146-11 Committee on Rules & Ordinances Report
On Ordinance offered by Alderman Michael K. Marchese-To revoke Ordinance Number A0150-09, an Ordinance authorizing a "fully empowered Traffic Commission"; with a recommendation to refer back to sponsor.
6. A0147-11 Committee on Rules & Ordinances Report
On Ordinance offered by Aldermen Robert J. Van Campen, Michael K. Marchese, L. Charles DiPerri and Councilor Rosa DiFlorio
That there be enacted a residency ordinance applicable to all public safety employees hired by the City of Everett on or after January 1, 2012; with a recommendation for favorable action on new Section 8-62.5 and 14-14. (Under new business.)
7. A0132-11 Committee on Rules & Ordinances Report
On Order/s/Alderman Michael K. Marchese-To prohibit all non-profit, tax exempt organizations from coming into the City of Everett and purchasing property without first coming to the Board of Aldermen for approval; and that a moratorium preventing same be put into effect for a one-year period; with a recommendation to refer to the Building Department for strict enforcement of places of Assembly use and that the Mayor provide a Public Service announcement on the requirements and restrictions for these types of uses.
8. A0156-11 Committee on Rules & Ordinances Report
On Order offered by Alderman Joseph McGonagle-That the City of Everett, by and through its Mayor, and City Council, voted, to petition the General Court to the end that legislation be adopted precisely as follows: An Act regarding a special law granting authority to the Everett Traffic Commission to have the power to lower speed limits within the City of Everett; with a recommendation to grant further time.
9. A0163-11 Committee on Rules & Ordinances Report
On Ordinance offered by Alderman Robert Van Campen-That the City of Everett enact a zoning ordinance defining and restricting the proper location and placement of any home-base satellite dish and/or device on one's property; with a recommendation to refer back to sponsor.
NEW BUSINESS
10. A0197-11 Ordinance/s/Alderman Robert Van Campen, Alderman Michael Marchese, Alderman L. Charles DiPerri and Councilor Rosa DiFlorio
To amend Chapter 8 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Everett by adding Section 8-62.5 regarding residency requirement for fire department employees.
11. A0198-11 Ordinance/s/Aldermen Robert Van Campen, Michael Marchese, L. Charles DiPerri and Councilor Rosa DiFlorio
To amend Chapter 14 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Everett by adding Section 14-14 regarding residency requirement for police officers hired on or after January 1, 2011.
12. A0199-11 Resolution/s/Aldermen Robert J. Van Campen, Millie J. Cardello and Michael Mangan
That Senator Sal DiDomenico appear at this meeting of the Board of Aldermen to discuss the Massachusetts casino gambling bill and its impacts on the City of Everett.
13. A0200-11 Resolution/s/Alderman Robert J. Van Campen
That Senator Sal DiDomenico provide the Board of Aldermen with an update as to his efforts to provide a temporary toll discount for Everett residents wishing to use the Tobin Bridge during the construction of Route 99 and the Alford Street bridge.
14. A0202-11 Order/s/Alderman Michael K. Marchese, as President
The Board of Aldermen shall appoint 4 persons to a committee, at least one of which shall be a member of the charter commission elected in November 2009, to begin a review of the city ordinances for the purpose of preparing such revisions and amendments as may be needed or necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of the new charter and to fully implement the provisions of the new charter. The city clerk shall be the fifth member and chair of this committee. The committee shall submit a report, with recommendations, within 1 year following its creation and may submit interim reports with recommendations at any time. The city solicitor, or special counsel appointed for this express purpose, shall serve as an advisor to the committee.
15. A0203-11 Order/s/Aldermen Robert J. Van Campen, L. Charles DiPerri and Councilor Rosa DiFlorio
That the rules of the City Council be amended to provide for a period of public participation and comment prior to the commencement of legislative business. This comment period shall not exceed ten minutes. A copy of the proposed rule change is attached to this item.
16. A0204-11 Resolution/s/Aldermen Robert J. Van Campen and L. Charles DiPerri
That the Auditor and/or Budget Director provide the Board of Aldermen, in writing and in advance of its next meeting, with budgetary burn rates for all city departments as we are approaching the mid-point of the current Fiscal Year.
17. A0205-11 BOA Worksheet Monday, November 14, 2011
1.Sponsor: Madam Alderman Millie J. Cardello – To paint a crosswalk on Union Street, starting at the westerly corner of Chatham and Union Streets across Union Street, in a southerly direction and ending at the sidewalk abutting Golden Age Circle Housing Complex. Referred to: City Services
2. Sponsor: Madam Alderman Millie J. Cardello – To replace the sign that was removed during sidewalk repair that prohibits parking on the eastbound side of Union Street at the corner where Golden Age Circle and Union Street abut. (Across from Chatham Road.) Referred to: City Services
Adjournment
Respectfully submitted:
C. McCorry, Everett City Council Office
council@ci.everett.ma.us
Reminders:
11/15 6PM Committee on Bills & Accounts Meeting
11/21 7PM Common Council Meeting
11/28 5:30PM Joint Convention (MRF)
11/28 6:00PM Joint Convention (Parkway Overlay District)
11/28 6:30PM Special Common Council Meeting
11/28 7:00PM Board of Aldermen Meeting
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tetris
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2040 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 4:17:54 PM
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#1 - When did Sergio get promoted?
#15. - Could be entertaining! |
Edited by - tetris on 11/10/2011 4:24:01 PM |
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Tails
Administrator
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Posted - 11/14/2011 : 12:06:09 PM
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Originally posted by tetris
#1 - When did Sergio get promoted?
#15. - Could be entertaining!
Isn't public comment part of the new charter? |
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2011 Board of Aldermen
