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lizbeth
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 Posted - 12/18/2005 : 09:33:04 AM
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If the deal is that she give certain testimony, and she doesn't give that testimony, then the deal is off.
It's going to be interesting. Let's see what the noble members of the School Committee do tomorrow night; let's see if they did the right thing and told her she'd have to turn in her resignation or if they have the chops to dismiss her and be public about it. Let's see if they finally have the castinets to do the right thing.
But I'm not betting my mortgage payment on it. |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
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Posted - 12/18/2005 : 11:33:43 AM
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| School committee and "castinets" are words not usually found in the same sentence, Lisabeth. They would first have to get them back from Fred, who snips them off right after they're inaugurated. Or beforehand, if he paid for their ads and stuff. |
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louie
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/18/2005 : 12:40:46 PM
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| I think Lisa is correct I checked the coputer on the Hiller report(nothing there) so I called channel 7 news and they stated to me that it was front page news and it happen in the year 1999 and he won back his pension along with the former state rep. from Medford Hurley |
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lizbeth
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/18/2005 : 2:24:58 PM
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I found this link to a website that reference a couple of Boston Herald articles that reported on a widespread pension abuse scandal, and McGonigle was part of that. Evidently, a retired judge "advised" the state retirement board that they should pay McGonigle his pension.
You must be logged in to see this link.
According to these articles, AG Reilly was supposed to be "fixing" the problem, but I've not yet found any follow up to it. I'll keep looking, but the bottom line, at least according to this article, is that a public employee convicted of a felony committed in the course of performing their jobs are not entitled to receive their pension benefits. That McGonigle was able to skirt around this, at least for a time, doesn't mean DeFeo is going to be allowed to do the same thing. Again, this is something that should be watched very closely. The sad thing is that, at the end of the day, I get the feeling that most people don't really care.
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lisa
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Posted - 12/18/2005 : 3:25:11 PM
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| thank you liz I knew I wasn't dreaming and I was off on my year and Reilly did nothing about it. So I guess you and I are owed a dinner at Jimmy's. So hopefully we will see what happen with Ms. DeFeo |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
1201 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 07:28:31 AM
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| Well, I stand corrected. However, it would appear that there is no real loophole, just an interpretation by a politically hard-wired judge. The State Supreme Court already decided that the forfeiture law was constitutional. |
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lisa
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/19/2005 : 4:26:08 PM
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| well court, I love jimmy up at rt. one.. kidding anyways we will have to see what the school department does with defeo I will keep my sources close at hand |
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Masterful1
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 10:22:33 AM
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Well,well,well..I get back from vacation and this happened? Missed you all, H1 say hi to the pup for me, please.
Did anyone catch the SC meeting last nite? Are they finally going to bounce Defeo? Probably not. Then again, they could always rehire her as a consultant, like everyone else. Could she get her pension back as a consultant? Wouldn't that make her a new hire?
I wish everyone PEACE and LOVE this season. |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 12:56:48 PM
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| Masterful - welcome back!! To answer your question about pension benefits and being a consultant - there aren't any medical or pension benefits available to a consultant. But you know, it wouldn't surprise me if Fred tried to pull that stuff!!! |
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H1ghCh4r1ty
Advanced Member
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 2:03:10 PM
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Nice to hear from you, Oh Masterful1
The pup sends a "woof" and he also sends a hearty handshake to you.
Did not see the meeting, sorry. I'm sure someone here did though.
Emile Schoeffhausen |
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WICKED PISSA
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 2:52:37 PM
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| I caught the re-airing at 10pm last night. They do their "Fred" jig, and then they clap for banieweicz (spelling - sorry) and the other clown that's leaving and then they - get this - go into executive session to strategize with the legal advisor, and then come back and adjourn without taking any votes on anything. beautiful. |
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lisa
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 3:16:16 PM
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| now did you really think that there would of been a vote three days before christmas... trust me there won't be one you have two new members coming on board and one is a ragucci supporter there are deals here. And welcome back masterful missed ya.. |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 3:40:31 PM
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Lisa - is that how you see the world? Divided in Ragucci supporters....and what else? Hanlon/Foresteire supporters? Not pro-taxpayer? Not pro-accountability?
There should have been a vote. It's really that easy. If you're guilty of a felony - it's time to go. |
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lisa
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 5:36:13 PM
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| no court that is not how I see the world but lets face it this city is divided again and it will be up to the new mayor to bring it together. I was just stating a fact and nothing else you can read into what you want |
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lizbeth
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 8:09:00 PM
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Well . . . I'm certainly not one to defend the School Committee, but I think by law, whenever a personnel matter is to be discussed, they're required to go into Executive Session because under employment law, DeFeo is entitled to certain rights of privacy.
Also . . . and again, this isn't a defense of those yahoos on the School Committee. . . but technically, it's up to the Superintendent to fire her. He has hiring/firing privileges over employees of the School Department. I believe this is covered under School Ed Reform. The School Committee's only "hiring/firing privileges" are in the appointment or discharge of the Superintendent, and we've all seen where they stand on that subject. |
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