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Eyeontheball
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 Posted - 09/18/2006 : 12:16:52 PM
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From the Mass Equality Website, Supporters of Mass Equality:
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Robert & Myran Kraft - Owner of the Patriots
Lawrence K. Fish - Chairman and CEO of Citizens Financial
The Honorable Thomas Menino, Mayor of Boston
Wayne A. Budd, Former US Attorney for Massachusetts
Charles Baker, Jr, President and CEO of Harvard Pilgrim; Republican, former Executive Secretary of Health and Human Services under Governor Weld and Cellucci.
Paul S. Grogan, President and CEO of the Boston Foundation
Henry Louis Gates, Professor at Harvard and Carnegie Award winner
Robert B. Parker, Author
Ralph C. Martin,II - Republican and former Suffok County District Attorney
Cathy E. Minehan, President and CEO, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston
Shall I keep going? These prominent business people who believe in equal rights for all.
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theodore rex
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Posted - 09/18/2006 : 1:11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Eyeontheball
From the Mass Equality Website, Supporters of Mass Equality:
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Robert & Myran Kraft - Owner of the Patriots
Lawrence K. Fish - Chairman and CEO of Citizens Financial
The Honorable Thomas Menino, Mayor of Boston
Wayne A. Budd, Former US Attorney for Massachusetts
Charles Baker, Jr, President and CEO of Harvard Pilgrim; Republican, former Executive Secretary of Health and Human Services under Governor Weld and Cellucci.
Paul S. Grogan, President and CEO of the Boston Foundation
Henry Louis Gates, Professor at Harvard and Carnegie Award winner
Robert B. Parker, Author
Ralph C. Martin,II - Republican and former Suffok County District Attorney
Cathy E. Minehan, President and CEO, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston
Shall I keep going? These prominent business people who believe in equal rights for all.
I have a realy crazy idea!!!!Just let the people vote on it. |
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Eyeontheball
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Posted - 09/18/2006 : 2:14:19 PM
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| So Mr. Rex - do you think people in the U.S. would have voted against slavery in 1860? |
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Paul
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Posted - 09/18/2006 : 4:43:47 PM
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Actually, Eye On The Ball, we went to war over slavery--Study your history a little closer !
It was this little thing called The Civil War---more Americans died in that war than any other war !
You make me laugh--you try to portray people as haters if this disagree with position !!!!!
I am NOT ashamed to say I am AGAINST MEN MARRYING MEN and WOMEN MARRYING WOMEN !!
I don't hate anyone but like the MAJORITY of AMERICANS I am AGINST SAME SEX MARRIAGE !
You can post all the rich people's names you want BUT if it came to a vote of the people the MAJORITY would be AGAINST it ! |
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Eyeontheball
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Posted - 09/18/2006 : 8:11:10 PM
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Actually, Paul, the war between the states had a multitude of causes, and slavery was only one of them. Unfair tariffs and import taxes, the shift of political strength from the rural south to the urban north, sectional differences, states rights, the Missouri Compromise, secession fever....built up to a head at Fort Sumter.
By 1860, few Americans were invested in the abolitionist cause. Northerners came into the war wanting to preserve the Union, and the South went into the war to preserve their culture and way of life - state's rights. If a vote were held on the slavery question in 1860, it is doubtful that it would have prevailed.
Paul, you may certainly be against anything you want. But you may not be in the majority. |
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theodore rex
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Posted - 09/19/2006 : 03:24:29 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Eyeontheball
So Mr. Rex - do you think people in the U.S. would have voted against slavery in 1860?
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Yes some would have.The thing you fail to get is your not the main stream veiw point you can call people haters bigots and what not but people see right through that crap! |
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Eyeontheball
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Posted - 09/20/2006 : 09:52:21 AM
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Mr. Rex....is issue was not whether you agree with gay marriage or not; the underlying hate comes in when you brand a "live and let live" kind of guy as though he's a gay activist, and use the controversy as a wedge to stir people up, despite the fact that Nuzzo never took a real stand on the issue of marriage equality. The man didn't respond to any surveys, yet used it as a divisive issue in an effort to win. It becomes hate when you and others say that Smith hid his views...when in fact, he has never done that. In February, his campaign manager printed a letter clarifying Steve's point of view. It becomes hate when in the last issue of the Advocate, it was alleged that Steve was a drunk, had business dealings with a developer, and had a face lift - all of which were patently untrue - by why let truth get in the way of a good story.
Juxtaposed together - it's hate. And we know where it comes from. |
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theodore rex
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Posted - 09/22/2006 : 8:45:58 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Eyeontheball
Mr. Rex....is issue was not whether you agree with gay marriage or not; the underlying hate comes in when you brand a "live and let live" kind of guy as though he's a gay activist, and use the controversy as a wedge to stir people up, despite the fact that Nuzzo never took a real stand on the issue of marriage equality. The man didn't respond to any surveys, yet used it as a divisive issue in an effort to win. It becomes hate when you and others say that Smith hid his views...when in fact, he has never done that. In February, his campaign manager printed a letter clarifying Steve's point of view. It becomes hate when in the last issue of the Advocate, it was alleged that Steve was a drunk, had business dealings with a developer, and had a face lift - all of which were patently untrue - by why let truth get in the way of a good story.
Juxtaposed together - it's hate. And we know where it comes from.
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what you do in your bedroom is up to you but dont ask me to support it!!!! |
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Eyeontheball
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Posted - 09/23/2006 : 07:25:34 AM
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| But no one is ASKING YOU to support it. What we're talking about here is equality for all people. Why should a certain segment of the population not have partner benefits like health and life insurance and the ability to inherit property? That's why is the LAW, Mr. Rex. Massachusetts doesn't discriminate. |
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theodore rex
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Posted - 09/23/2006 : 5:14:50 PM
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I dont know who said it but its a fine Quote"Free men are not equal and equal men are not free"Judges should not be makeing laws from the bench lets put it to a vote so it can get shot down and we will be done with it.
P.S you know this has nothing to do with benefits!!!! |
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Eyeontheball
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Posted - 09/23/2006 : 9:36:54 PM
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| Just because your interpretation of Mass State Law isn't the same as our members of the Mass SJC doesn't mean that they were making laws from the bench. Have you actually read the law or are you parroting some right wing talk radio whackjob? And ya know, it's all about benefits....don't kid yourself. This is far more economic than it is anything else. |
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theodore rex
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Posted - 09/24/2006 : 01:08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Eyeontheball
Just because your interpretation of Mass State Law isn't the same as our members of the Mass SJC doesn't mean that they were making laws from the bench. Have you actually read the law or are you parroting some right wing talk radio whackjob? And ya know, it's all about benefits....don't kid yourself. This is far more economic than it is anything else.
If there is anything that makes me sick in this world it is right wing raido host's I know there full of crap!!!!I think for my self this law was passed down from the bench and you know it.Economics my a@#
please dont try that crap im not that stupid and I dont think you are!!!! |
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Eyeontheball
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Posted - 09/24/2006 : 07:07:44 AM
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| Theodore - no offense intended. But have you read Massachusetts law? We probably have one of the more egalitarian state laws in the U.S. And if its not about economics - then what is it? The fact is, even long term partners have little protection in the eyes of the law without marriage. They cannot inherit without benefit of a will, they do not have health or life insurance benefits until one of them works for a company with progressive views. There have been cases when a middle aged gay people have died, without a will. Their family (not approving of the relationship) has taken control right down to the knickknacks on the shelf, leaving the partner without anything at all. In some cases - the surviving partner has become homeless when the "family" has sold the house right out from under them. And that's all legal unless couples are married. It's not fair or reasonable to think these people should have no rights that acknowledge these long term relationships. |
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WICKED PISSA
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Posted - 09/24/2006 : 12:48:19 PM
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Well, when I hear people who "think for themselves" quoting George Bush, I question whether they are capable of independent thought. Judges don't "Legislate from the bench". One of their roles is to interpret laws based on arguments made by those bringing forth complaints. When a constitution says, "equal" how can anyone, judge or not, say that any set of adults are not allowed the same rights and privileges as other sets of adults. Male/Female, Black/White, Jewish/Catholic and Straight or Gay. EVERYONE deserves the same access to everything. Other things Gay couples can't do without marriage?
Visit each other in intensive care, file taxes as married, get medical insurance coverage through an employer for the significant other, and as stated earlier, the will and estate protection. Not to mention, the families they raise together should be able to have the same family structure as anyone. I don’t get what the big deal is and feel like anyone that has in issue with this is living with their head in the sand. It's another form of bigotry, no matter how you slice it. |
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Paul
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Posted - 09/24/2006 : 2:43:33 PM
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Bigotry my ass !!!!
The question of gay marriage has been voted on in numerous states and most times the gay rights people have lost.
The question is simple--why not put it to a vote ??
Thats why Mass Equality gave Smith all the money--THEY want HIS vote but do NOT want THE PEOPLE to vote on it. |
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Eyeontheball
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Posted - 09/24/2006 : 5:08:40 PM
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| Perhaps because it's already state law? Why aren't you demanding a vote on abortion? Perhaps because it's already the law of the land? |
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