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EverettsPride
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 Posted - 11/05/2006 : 1:52:05 PM
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"Personally, I can't understand people thinking that the lack of a youth center or Y means that kids shouldn't have to be home at 11PM. It is ridiculous that such a rule doesn't already exist. "
Michael
Michael what I think is rediculous is that the city government is goign to try and tell me when my kids need to be home! It is not their concern. I do not live in a communist country. I will raise my own kids. Does Jason Marcus even have kids?
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justme
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Posted - 11/06/2006 : 06:32:58 AM
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| Is it your kids that I see on Broadway late at night? Probably not. Yes Sally, you can raise your own kids. BUT there doesn't seem to be enough parents like you who paying attention to what their kids are doing! |
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EverettsPride
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 Posted - 11/06/2006 : 08:10:09 AM
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I still do not think the government shold be able to tell me how to raise my kids.
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Citizen Kane
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Posted - 11/06/2006 : 08:41:19 AM
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The law already has guidelines for how you can or cannot raise your children. Some people consider corporal punishment as an appropriate child rearing tool, but the law could consider it abuse of a child. The law says you have to have your child immunized in order to send him/her to school.
Sally, do you think it's appropriate for a child under 16 to be out wandering the streets after 11:00 o'clock at night?
The problem, as someone said previously, is the enforcement of this curfew. How are the police going to determine the age of someone walking down the street? Is he going to stop everyone who looks like they might be 16 years old or younger and ask them for an ID? If the kid, or group of kids, is just walking down the street minding their own business, does the police officer have a right to stop them at all? |
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 4:44:50 PM
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I don't think a curfew is the government's way of telling someone how to raise their kids.
Any responsible parent wouldn't let a child of 16 or under be out on the streets until 11pm anyway and, the ones that DO let their kids roam the streets until all hours are, obviously, in need of some parenting classes.
I grew up in Everett and I would never, in a 100 years, allow my children to walk those streets at night with the way the city is now. It's so bad there that I've moved. It doesn't change the fact, however, that my entire family (including my teenaged nephews) are still living there and I fear for those kids on a daily basis.
Where I currently live doesn't even have 15 police calls a week yet there's still a curfew...no one on the streets after 10pm whose under 18 without a parent or guardian with them. Goes a bit further than the 16yo/11pm curfew proposal in Everett, but at least it's a start.
The point I'm trying to get at is that the environment in Everett is ripe for gang-style activities...it's already starting...their motto is "get 'em while they're young". If NOTHING is done about it, it will only get worse. Make the attempt, ENFORCE THE ATTEMPT (backstreets, side streets or main drag)and support the attempt...it's not going to HURT any children, but it just might save some of them. Yes, the police department will probably be over-run with calls. So what? Let them handle them as they can...even if 50% of those calls are answered, that's 50% fewer "potential problems."
Now, if only the politicians can grow backbones and do the right thing by these kids instead of using it as "smoke and mirrors" for campaign literature...
Remove the blinders...things are NOT getting any better. |
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EverettsPride
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 9:18:30 PM
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If my kid is at a friends house a few blocks away and wants to stay until 11pm to watch a movie and walks home after I am a bad parent??? See I know I am a good parent and I do not want anyone telling me how to raise my kids. The curfew is rediculous! The cops won't enfoce it because they have bigger things to handle. What are they goign to do if they find a kid out after 11pm? Put them in the car and take them home, bring them to the station, tell them to go home? I don't need any help parenting from the cops or anyone else. Kids are recruited by gangs during the day also. My kid knows better than to go anywhere near the gang members and they know who they are. They can be recruited in school at Everett High. I do not need Jason Marcus telling me when my kid needs to be home. He does not even have a kid.
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Citizen Kane
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 9:42:25 PM
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| Sally, you're taking this all very personally. You're not the only person who has children, and while it's admirable that you consider yourself to be a good parent, not all children are so lucky. And I'm sorry, but if my kid were at a friend's house a few blocks away watching a movie until after 11:00 p.m., no, I wouldn't let them walk home, for the very reason that not all kids are lucky enough to have good parents that make sure they get home in one piece, and those kids are the ones out wandering the street. I'd go pick my kid up or be sure that his friend's parent was willing to drive him home, or he'd have his butt back in his own house by 9:00 p.m. |
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Paul
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 11:47:23 PM
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CK
You never cease to amaze me !!
You seem to know everything about everything !! |
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Citizen Kane
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 11:50:11 PM
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| Oh, heavens, Paul -- what have I said now to offend you? |
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EverettsPride
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 Posted - 11/09/2006 : 10:11:15 AM
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Maybe I am taking this personally. I drive my kids everywhere adn I pick them up. That has nothing to do with why this upsets me. I do not believe the Commom Council or Board of Alderman have any place teling me or anyone else how to raise our kids. I believe kids should not be out after 11pm , but that is not the point. The police are already able to report parents to DSS if they believe that the kids should not be out and about at 11pm or later. There are already things in place to handle this. How much do we expect the police to do in this city?? Now they have to babysit for the unfit parents?
I just think it is crazy and it is overstepping boundaries.
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bbpolitical
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Posted - 11/12/2006 : 8:12:35 PM
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Originally posted by EverettsPride
If my kid is at a friends house a few blocks away and wants to stay until 11pm to watch a movie and walks home after I am a bad parent??? See I know I am a good parent and I do not want anyone telling me how to raise my kids. The curfew is rediculous! The cops won't enfoce it because they have bigger things to handle. What are they goign to do if they find a kid out after 11pm? Put them in the car and take them home, bring them to the station, tell them to go home? I don't need any help parenting from the cops or anyone else. Kids are recruited by gangs during the day also. My kid knows better than to go anywhere near the gang members and they know who they are. They can be recruited in school at Everett High. I do not need Jason Marcus telling me when my kid needs to be home. He does not even have a kid.
Sally
They always drive the kids home where I grew up. It isn't a punitive curfew. Just a way of letting kids know they shouldn't be out on their own.
I am an average resident of Everett who would like to see more communication about anything and everything to do with Everett |
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Lynda
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Posted - 11/13/2006 : 11:35:37 AM
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And the people involved in the shootings were adults not kids????? What!
The Gendale park incident (although in broad daylight) were KIDS. Not adults. I think that this curfew, although I don't think it will materialize, is a great idea for all over the city not just certain parts and for all streets not just main ones. I have a teenager and I think it is insane that some of her friends are out walking the streets at night. |
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Lynda
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Posted - 11/13/2006 : 11:38:54 AM
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Sorry... My last post was to EverettsPride
And Sally I agree with you 100% if you kid is at a friends house late they should be picked up and/or the parents at that home should drive them home. If you as a parent arn't available to pick your kid up and the parent of the home they are at can't than they simply don't go.
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EverettsPride
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 07:11:54 AM
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No, the people involved in the shotting near Glendale were adults NOT kids.
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Lynda
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 08:32:12 AM
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EverettsPride aka Sally
They were Highchool kids. Teens. |
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Teen Curfew
