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Lynda
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Posted - 05/18/2007 : 1:49:27 PM
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| Court I have NO idea what he/she is talking about. To be honest I don't think that he/she knows thyself. |
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Obvious
Member
51 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 2:06:10 PM
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| Can't we all just get along? Heard that somewhere on here before. |
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massdee
Moderator
5299 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 2:19:49 PM
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| Does anyone know when the Budget Hearings are going to start? |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
1201 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 2:28:15 PM
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| The budget hearings will start after Janice Vetrano dusts off her abacus and calls the department heads in for their "meeting." Then Mayor Walking Eagle (a bird so full of sh** it can't fly) will break out a block of granite and begin chiseling the budget into the stone. Then Fred Flintstone will pick up the "budget" and bring it to the quarry to have it "copied." Shortly thereafter, the "budget" will be delivered by pterodactyl, to each member of city government. The hearings will begin after the clerk receives the smoke signals from Mayor Walking Eagle, letting him know that the budget has been delivered. |
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massdee
Moderator
5299 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 2:40:23 PM
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So, from the sounds of it, we won't be making it by the end of the fiscal year. LOL
That was a really good one, Court. |
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
 Posted - 05/18/2007 : 6:23:32 PM
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| If we have a budget in place on July 1st it will be a miracle. |
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Lynda
Advanced Member
1282 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 6:26:08 PM
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Hello justme... my other personality. LOL
I agree I do not see how it would be possible for a budget to be in place in time. |
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 7:27:10 PM
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| As I understand it, there haven't even been any budget meetings scheduled with department heads. Can the CC & BOA approve funding a week at a time? |
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Middle-Man 1
Senior Member
188 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 8:33:07 PM
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| They probably want to hold off as long as possible. We're probably heading for another sizeable increase in the total city budget again. I can see why the mayor would be in no hurry to deal with the inevitable backlash from the responsible members of city government. They made a stink last year and ended up cutting just about nothing from the bottom line before approving the mayors request. I don't think they will be so kind this time around. |
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Citizen Kane
Advanced Member
1082 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 8:34:52 PM
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| He'll hold off, and then when city government won't approve what he wants, he'll threaten a shut down and claim that the city council is throwing things into chaos -- when actually, Hanlon is the master of chaos in this failed magic show of an adminstration. |
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Middle-Man 1
Senior Member
188 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 8:45:04 PM
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| Hey Citizen, it worked for Bill Clinton right? The mayor is just taking a page out of slick Willie's playbook. |
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the penguin
Member
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Posted - 05/18/2007 : 8:45:41 PM
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| Will he submit another "true" budget???? |
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 9:27:23 PM
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| Is there a way to keep the city running without approving a budget? Can the CC & BOA approve some money for salaries? What actually happens if there is no approved budget on July 1st? |
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massdee
Moderator
5299 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2007 : 9:59:49 PM
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MGL
PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT
TITLE VII. CITIES, TOWNS AND DISTRICTS
CHAPTER 44. MUNICIPAL FINANCE
BUDGET IN CITIES
Chapter 44: Section 32. Submission to city council; procedure for approval, rejection or alteration
Section 32. Within one hundred and seventy days after the annual organization of the city government in any city other than Boston, the mayor shall submit to the city council the annual budget which shall be a statement of the amounts recommended by him for proposed expenditures of the city for the next fiscal year. The annual budget shall be classified and designated so as to show separately with respect to each officer, department or undertaking for which an appropriation is recommended:—
(1) Ordinary maintenance, which shall also include debt and interest charges matured and maturing during the next fiscal year, and shall be subdivided as follows:—
(a) Salaries and wages of officers, officials and employees other than laborers or persons performing the duties of laborers; and
(b) Ordinary maintenance not included under (a); and
(2) Proposed expenditures for other than ordinary maintenance, including additional equipment the estimated cost of which exceeds one thousand dollars.
The foregoing shall not prevent any city, upon recommendation of the mayor and with the approval of the council, from adopting additional classifications and designations.
The city council may by majority vote make appropriations for the purposes recommended and may reduce or reject any amount recommended in the annual budget. It shall not increase any amount in or the total of the annual budget nor add thereto any amount for a purpose not included therein except on recommendation of the mayor, and except as provided in section thirty-three; provided, however, that in the case of the school budget or in the case of a regional school district assessment, the city council, on the recommendation of the school committee or on recommendation of a regional district school committee, may by a two-thirds vote increase the total amount appropriated for the support of the schools or for the regional district schools over that requested by the mayor; and provided, further, that no such increase shall be voted if it would render the total annual budget in excess of the property tax limitations set forth in section twenty-one C of chapter fifty-nine. Except as otherwise permitted by law, all amounts appropriated by the city council, as provided in this section, shall be for the purposes specified. In setting up an appropriation order or orders based on the annual budget, the council shall use, so far as possible, the same classifications required for the annual budget. If the council fails to take action with respect to any amount recommended in the annual budget, either by approving, reducing or rejecting the same, within forty-five days after the receipt of the budget, such amount shall without any action by the council become a part of the appropriations for the year, and be available for the purposes specified.
If, upon the expiration of one hundred and seventy days after the annual organization of the city government, the mayor shall not have submitted to the city council the annual budget for said year, the city council shall, upon its own initiative, prepare such annual budget by June thirtieth of such year, and such budget preparation shall be, where applicable, subject to the provisions governing the annual budget of the mayor.
Within fifteen days after such preparation of the annual budget, the city council shall proceed to act by voting thereon and all amounts so voted shall thereupon be valid appropriations for the purposes stated therein to the same extent as though based upon a mayor’s annual budget, but subject, however, to such requirements, if any, as may be imposed by law.
If the council fails to take action with respect to any amount recommended in the budget, either by approving, reducing or rejecting the same, within fifteen days after such preparation, such amount shall, without further action by the council, become a part of the appropriations for the year, and be available for the purposes specified.
Notwithstanding any provisions of this section to the contrary, the mayor may submit to the city council a continuing appropriation budget for said city on a month by month basis for a period not to exceed three months if said city has not approved an operating budget for the fiscal year because of circumstances beyond its control.
Nothing in this section shall prevent the city council, acting upon the written recommendation of the mayor, from voting appropriations, not in excess of the amount so recommended, either prior or subsequent to the passage of the annual budget.
The provisions of this section shall apply, in any city adopting the Plan E form of government under chapter forty-three, only to the extent provided by section one hundred and four of said chapter.
Neither the annual budget nor appropriation orders based thereon shall be in such detail as to fix specific salaries of employees under the direction of boards elected by the people, other than the city council.
The city council may, and upon written request of at least ten registered voters shall, give notice of a public hearing to be held on the annual budget, prior to final action thereon, but not less than seven days after publication of such notice, in a newspaper having general circulation in the city. At the time and place so advertised, or at any time or place to which such public hearing may from time to time be adjourned, the city council shall hold a public hearing on the annual budget as submitted by the mayor, at which all interested persons shall be given an opportunity to be heard for or against the proposed expenditures or any item thereof. |
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card
Senior Member
117 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 06:24:00 AM
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5/21/2007 7:00 PM (Legislative Department) 7PM-COMMON COUNCIL MEETING
5/21/2007 6:00 PM 6PM-TENTATIVE JOINT CONVENTION ('08 BUDGET)
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2008 Budget
