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Lynda
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Posted - 09/10/2007 : 4:16:27 PM
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| Very well put AVGMOM. Massdee No way would I live next to a dump but, believe it or not others will. It would bring lots of jobs to Everett that seems to be the only positive, other than visually, I could offer. |
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massdee
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Posted - 09/10/2007 : 9:55:40 PM
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| Thanks, AVGMOM. So, it's like give Thebeault what he wants or there will not be any development down there. Isn't that the same as holding the city hostage? See, that's what I mean about this guy. There are so many horror stories, just check into Newburyport and see all the crap he pulled there. He worries me. |
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Ellen
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 07:47:06 AM
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I read this on the other board and thought it summed things up pretty good......
Yes, William Thibeault is part of DeMaria's campaign. Only because there is something in it for him. It's not that he believes in DeMaria, it's all about how much money he can make and the people that live in Everett will pay the price. Who wants him around. The guy is known to pump all kinds of crap into the environment and that is an issue that Carlo should be dealing with. Not about the money. Who knows what kind of cancer causing chemicals are at his dump. He takes everything and anything and it all gets pumped into the air. Just look at the cars down by stop & shop. Totally gross and for DeMaria to deal with him is even more gross. Forget the monetary crap, good health and our children's health is much more important!
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Court4Fred
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 09:06:00 AM
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| A deal with the Devil...by any other name, is still a deal with the Devil. |
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massdee
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 10:16:18 AM
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Well said, Court. I can not understand how people don't see the importance of this alliance with Thibeault. It should not be pushed aside, the very character of the man is questionable. Over the years he has refused to abide by the regulations set forth from the State and the various communities that he has his businesses located in, including here in Everett. People do not usually change their stripes, and I don't see Thibeault changing his. He has had many years to improve his relationship with Everett and has refused to do so.
He has also approached other candidates with his plans and money and was turned away. So, you see, that post that Ellen put up is correct. It's not that he believes in the candidate, he is trying to put his own agenda forward. Voters, please beware. Thibeault is a wolf in sheep's clothing. |
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AVGMOM
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 2:55:17 PM
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| Massdee, I never suggested that Thibeault be given whatever he wants by any means, what I am saying is regardless of his personal character he owns the property, so if we want to have it developed than we have to come to a common ground and find a plan that would work for everyone, otherwise forget it. Carlo would not sabotage the people of Everett by working with this man if it wasn't in their best interest. I also know that Carlo has only accepted a legal donation from Mr. Thibeault and not this bloated notion of anything else, that is all rumors spread by the other candidates. I have to say I really respect Carlo for not retaliating on anything that has gone on in this campaign, from the rumors being spread to the signs being torn off people's houses, and the negative ads. Carlo has focused on his own campaign and paid no attention to anything else, and I am proud of him for that and I wish him the best of luck next Tuesday. |
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massdee
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 3:21:54 PM
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AVGMOM, Mr Thibeault isn't known for playing fair. If he is able to get approval to go ahead on lower Broadway, he will do what he wants down there and not follow the regulations put on him. He is presently doing that at his Revere Beach Parkway site. The DEP approved his plan down there and gave him permission to move forward. He did not follow the plan he gave the DEP and has been cited and has still not corrected the situation, I believe this has been going on for more than 10 years. This is why Mr Thibeault worries me. I would rather see the area not developed than to have a developer like Mr Thibeault have more opportunity to do harm to our city. It is not Carlo I don't trust, it's Mr Thibeault. Carlo probably feels that it's a good thing for Everett, and it would be , if the man could be trusted to follow through. I think the only thing we will end up seeing built down there is a bigger waste facility than Thibeault already has here in Everett.
Rumors and some blatant lies are being spread about both the front running candidates running against the mayor. Also, Carlo isn't the only candidate that is having his signs torn down. I think it is childish and accomplishes nothing. |
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EverettsPride
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 3:42:17 PM
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He cannot get approval if the aldermen and councillors do not give his the go ahead. They work for us. Let them know you want no part of a dump of any kind. And do not wait until it is about to happen like Hanlon did with the Boston sludge plant.
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 Posted - 09/11/2007 : 3:58:53 PM
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Concerning William Thibeault and Carlo working with him, why is the environmental issue not a priority? It should be. There are too many stories with this guy and money isn’t everything. Lets try and save the earth and stop pumping chemicals into it. Lets try and have the city a healthy place to live. Lets stop contributing to all the pollution that is already here from every house having 4 cars and the factories. That dump does not belong in any city. It belongs far, far away in the boondocks somewhere. If Carlo had been man enough to stand up and admit it was William Thibeault that was the “developer” in his campaign video, he would have had my vote. He never once mentioned the environment or the health aspects of living next to a dump. I just don’t trust him now. He back talks and speaks in pieces. He was hiding the fact that this man was his backer and he was a big backer. I do admit he ran his campaign like an adult without the name calling and finger pointing but it’s too bad he is blowing it with this issue. He did not need Thibeault.
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AVGMOM
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 4:54:55 PM
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| Hallowed Dreams, as far as the environment goes, Carlo,his wife and two kids breathe the same air we all do in this city so I really don't feel he is going to let further polution happen in this city, if anything, I think he will get whatever dump there is enclosed to stop any polution. I did my research, Mr. Thibeault was supposed enclose the facility next to Stop and Shop but didn't due to the fact that he was given a 5 year reprival by Mayor Ragucci. As far as the video goes, it was about Carlo's campaign, this issue was mentioned breifly, and if he was trying to hide anything he wouldn't have brought it up at all. |
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massdee
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 4:57:35 PM
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| Sally, in a perfect world our elected officials would listen to us but in the world we live in, it just doesn't happen. Sure, we get their ear and they "yes" us to death but when all is said and done, they do as they please. Our only recourse is to try and vote them out of office. The damage has already been done. I wish there was a way for the voting public to have more of an input at our city council meetings. |
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 7:38:59 PM
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My problem is its not Carlo who will be living next to the dump but he’s willing to put other people there to live. I’m talking about his big plans of the new dump next to the new condos which we all know will never happen. The dump will though because Thibeault will make sure of that. Why did he get a 5 year reprieval? Why didn’t Thibeault just do what he was suppose to do? What makes you think he will enclose the new dump when he hasn’t done what he’s suppose to do with the old one by Stop & Shop. It’s absolutely disgusting over there and it will be more disgusting then it already is down lower Broadway. Dumps do not belong in Cities. It’s the biggest mistake.
Carlo is not thinking clearly on this issue, only dollar signs at whose expense I wonder??? This guy is not worth it and it’s a big turn off. |
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Cam
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 8:28:26 PM
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| I have been reading here for a while but have finally decided to join in. The issue about Mr. Thibeault is what made me write. I am in complete agreement with Hallowed Dreams. Everett just does not need anymore of this type of business. We need clean development. We need to move forward. Putting this waste dump on Broadway is a step back in time. City government has been trying to change the face of Everett. Why would anyone even begin to consider this type of proposal? Never mind a candidate for mayor. This prospect of putting this type of business on Broadway has made my mind up for the primary. I will not vote for someone who is making our city go backwards and destroy our environment in the process. |
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EverettsPride
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 10:11:10 PM
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Who says he is considering a waste dump? I only hear that on the mirror. I have not heard it from anyone credible.
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Lynda
Advanced Member
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Posted - 09/12/2007 : 08:57:50 AM
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| Nor have I. Remember people anything and everything that goes on here in Everett must to go through BOTH councils (at least it is suppose to) before it becomes a reality. Even if Carlo so call "makes a deal". |
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Carlo DiMaria for Mayor
