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Tails
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  3:41:43 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I read your post three times and I can’t figure out what you are saying. Yes.....I did mention the “powers that be not happy” comment and "Pity Hall having too much time on their hands" but.....that was a response to downplaying what the residents in Newburyport have been living with.

Here is a chronology of events they have had to deal with.

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It’s common sense....that’s all....and if you believe that I actually thought they damaged a “tape” then I have a fast boat to China to sell you.
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Tails
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  3:50:43 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Another thing is I have no idea if the Solicitor is all about money....I am referring to her salary. I don't think I should be paying it but I'm not blaming her, I'm blaming the Mayor for that.
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just wondering
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  6:20:59 PM  Show Profile Send just wondering a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You're blaming the mayor for saving you money?
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JoeSister
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  6:22:47 PM  Show Profile Send JoeSister a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tails you are never wrong.
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massdee
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  9:17:00 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by keanu

Look Dont blame anybody at City Hall for this or anybody else. Dont listen. There is only one person in the whole world that can be all about the money and care less about other people than herself like this and they can have 3 identies or 10 identies it doest matter. My wife is a genious and we know the truth and we saw it ourselves its her. she is a nobody. Just ignore her she will go away but come back later as someone else. She doesnt care about anybody but herself. I guess the mirror is broken in the room to talk.





What the heck are you talking about???????

I've been away for most of the day, what a bunch of nonsense.

Edited by - massdee on 05/06/2008 9:19:32 PM
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just wondering
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  9:52:28 PM  Show Profile Send just wondering a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I may be wrong.....but I think that purpose of a public meeting in this case is to ask for suggestions on use of the property. Selling the building does not require a public hearing.
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Tails
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  10:07:52 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No. I am blaming the Mayor for falsely trying to rush this Devens School sale before the budget so his budget can look ….oh so great….. and no one dare to mention his bloated staff salaries that the Everett taxpayers are paying for. Not the Taunton taxpayers…..the Everett taxpayers.
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JoeSister
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  11:36:53 PM  Show Profile Send JoeSister a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tails now I am really confused, if the Mayor is falsely trying to rush the Devens School Sale does that mean he is not rushing? Correct me if I am wrong but I want his budget to look good and if selling that property helps so what.

From your last post I think you are taking you obsession with his staff to a new level maybe you should try not to mention them for awhile.


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tetris
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  11:49:42 PM  Show Profile Send tetris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just so we can all be on the same page about this, I offer the following link:

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On page number 95 - 105 of the document (the internal document page numbers, not the Adobe page numbers), the Inspector General's office provides an English description of MGL Chapter 30B, Section 16 as it applies to the disposition of real property. If you read through it, I think that you'll see that the current status of the Devens School sale appears to be somewhere between steps 6 and 7, with a little bit of step 1 thrown in with regards to the authorization for the sale, at least until next Monday.

With the change in administrations, it might have been a good idea to submit the work done on the selling the Devens School up to the point of the change to the Inspector General's office for a review. However, given the snail's pace that the IG's office seems to work at, it probably isn't the best idea at this time. The legal office should probably take a look at it though to insure that the city can cover all of its bases if they ever get audited.

For full disclosure, I can't take full credit for finding this piece of information. Someone actually posted a stub of this data on the Mirror today, believe it or not. It was later re-posted on Topix, where I found it. All I did was provide the actual link to the document.
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Tails
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  09:05:16 AM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I did not say public "meeting" I said public "hearing" It is my understanding that you are suppose to have a public hearing and disclose all factors on the sale to the public. I believe that was done in times past. There could be an ordinance somewhere on it.

Edited by - Tails on 05/07/2008 09:08:14 AM
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massdee
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  10:25:56 AM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am not against the sale of the old Devens School. I believed the mayor about the added expense to the city keeping this building is causing. My only question would be, is the proper procedure being followed to sell the building? If it is, great. If it's not, then city government needs to fix it.

Edited by - massdee on 05/07/2008 10:28:04 AM
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just wondering
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  10:37:25 AM  Show Profile Send just wondering a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Come on....in one post you imply that the mayor is doing something illegal...then the next day you say there "could be an ordinance somewhere"

I think it is irresponsible of you to make such an accusation without having facts to back it up
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JoeSister
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  10:43:18 AM  Show Profile Send JoeSister a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting Link from todays globe it's about paying qualified people what they are worth

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I know we are not Newton but people are doing the same jobs.

Edited by - JoeSister on 05/07/2008 11:06:24 AM
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just wondering
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  11:11:23 AM  Show Profile Send just wondering a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what are you implying about us being on at the same time?

I have no idea if/why the mayor was against the sale last year......can you provide specifics about what was being voted on?
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Tails
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  11:27:54 AM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The sale of the Devens School was voted no last year and I believe the Mayor (alderman at the time) was a no vote. Not quite sure what has changed since then (administrations, maybe) but I'm glad it's getting sold but I still do not THINK the proper procedure was taken. I know they had ward meetings but there should have been a public hearing with a full disclosure for the residents in the neighborhood and the entire city. You can trust this developer all you want....friendship and money is like oil and water. He can say "ya ya...I wont do this and I wont do that" but if he sees an opportunity to make money, I'm sure he will take it and nothing will be illegal and the neighborhood will be left in the dark. Lets get all the facts out in the open about the intentions and let the neighborhood decide whats best for them. For all we know, the developer could be building a China town in there. If he held the public hearing like he should have, this would not even be an issue. Was that right that the common council gets the notice hand delivered to their houses the day of the meeting. That's not enough time to research it.
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