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massdee
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  3:53:08 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know, if a vacancy opens up mid-term on the Board of Alderman, does the person the Board appoints to fill that position have to come from the Ward with the open seat?

Just curious!

justme
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  7:13:56 PM  Show Profile Send justme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, Jason's seat will have to be filled with someone from his ward.
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massdee
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  9:29:00 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do you know where in the charter that says that? I was scanning through and couldn't find it. If the seat becomes vacant, it could get interesting, maybe.
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Tails
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  9:42:26 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I do not believe that is anywhere in the charter. I think anyone can take it, if it becomes vacant, but come time for the election, they could not be elected into that seat.

If a seat becomes available midterm, I think the Alderman can give it to whomever they wish.... and they can also not fill the seat at all.

If an alderman abuses their authority, they should step down.

"blatantly, gone are the days"
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justme
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  9:52:19 PM  Show Profile Send justme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I've been wrong before so I'll step back but......... Haven't they filled other vacated seats with people who had run from the ward in question?

I assumed (I know, you should never assume) it was because they had to choose someone from that ward to ensure proper representation.
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massdee
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  10:06:10 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Justme, your logic makes sense but we are talking about Everett, where very little makes sense. I can remember when Mike Mangan moved from Ward 1 to Ward 2, he was allowed to finish his term as a Ward 1 Councilor. I know that was different from this situation, but it left Ward 1 with only 2 Councilors residing in the Ward.

Edited by - massdee on 01/14/2009 10:07:15 PM
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Tails
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  10:14:05 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose they have filled vacant seats with people from the ward in question (that may be the proper thing to do)...... but I do not think it's in the charter anywhere.

So, if the ward two seat becomes available next week, and an excellent candidate would like it, however, they were not "from" ward two......there is nothing in the charter stopping the board of alderman from giving that person the seat.

That person could not go on the ballot in November for ward two. It would be temporary.

"blatantly, gone are the days"
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justme
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Posted - 01/15/2009 :  05:05:20 AM  Show Profile Send justme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, now that the seat is covered let's get to the next question......... Will he resign on his own or be forced out?
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Fedup
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Posted - 01/15/2009 :  07:02:05 AM  Show Profile Send Fedup a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why should he lose his seat? Has he been convicted of anything? The City has had others who have been accused of various incidents. Even our Mayor had charges pressed against him a few years back. "Will he resign on his own or be forced out"? I don't think either should happen. Aren't we considered innocent until proven guilty?
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massdee
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Posted - 01/15/2009 :  07:45:37 AM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by justme

Okay, now that the seat is covered let's get to the next question......... Will he resign on his own or be forced out?



That's a tough one.....as Fedup said, he hasn't been convicted of anything. My opinion, since he has allegedly admitted that something happened, he should resign on his own and save himself and the city some embarrassment. Will he do that, I don't know. He might try to hang on and ride this out. In any event, it will be interesting to see how this is handled.
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justme
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Posted - 01/15/2009 :  08:41:48 AM  Show Profile Send justme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fedup

Why should he lose his seat? Has he been convicted of anything? The City has had others who have been accused of various incidents. Even our Mayor had charges pressed against him a few years back. "Will he resign on his own or be forced out"? I don't think either should happen. Aren't we considered innocent until proven guilty?



Yes, a person is (at least they should be) considered innocent until proven guilty however, as Massdee pointed out, he allegedly admitted wrongdoing. If that's incorrect and he proclaims innocence, then you're right and he may choose to stay put.

That said, guilty or innocent, I hope for everyone's sake it's over quickly.
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cozulady
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Posted - 01/15/2009 :  1:41:33 PM  Show Profile Send cozulady a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Allegations only. No discussion should be held until allegations are proven. Any comments can negatively impact innocent people. Please reconsider this subject until a legitimate charge has been made.
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Tails
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Posted - 01/15/2009 :  3:01:27 PM  Show Profile Send Tails a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have to disagree. The Alderman is a public figure and represents Everett. He also chose to bring people in on it when he arrived at the Mayor’s Office with the Chief of Police, crying his eyes out.

I’m sorry, but what’s fair is fair. People in the past have been crucified for much less.

It’s because of him that Wood Waste is advancing. He sold his vote for his girlfriend’s son. It’s not fair to the citizens of Everett to have someone there that is distracted. He needs to resign and deal with his personal problems. If he wants he can pull papers and run in November. We have too many important matters going on and we don’t need someone with clouded judgment.


"blatantly, gone are the days"
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justme
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Posted - 01/15/2009 :  3:02:04 PM  Show Profile Send justme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cozulady

Allegations only. No discussion should be held until allegations are proven. Any comments can negatively impact innocent people. Please reconsider this subject until a legitimate charge has been made.



There hasn't been any discussion and there's no indication anyone intended to have one.................
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