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justme
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 Posted - 06/09/2007 : 3:52:32 PM
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Thanks Middle-Man 1. I'm sorry our new member didn't like me calling Hanlon an idiot, but that was the one of the few terms to describe him I felt I could use in this forum! And massdee, I'm sorry it was attributed to you.
tetris, I also don't expect the budget to come back with all the necessary cuts. If it does, it will make them look worse than they already do. After all, if they can present a viable budget on Tuesday, there's no reason why it couldn't have been done the first time around! I do think the CC & BOA will be forced to make some of those tough decisions. Cutting jobs is never pleasant, but if it goes with your territory, you do what you've gotta do........ |
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tetris
Moderator
2040 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 5:38:18 PM
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justme, that's a very good point. It's hard to imagine that the administration could look any worse than it does now but that could do it.
So should we help our elected officials out? Does anyone have any ideas where the budget cuts should come from? I know that they should have more information than we do but I think that we should try to use the power of this forum to let them know how we feel.
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justme
Advanced Member
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 6:40:10 PM
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I think that's impossible tetris. Having dealt with the budget process with my former employer, without having all of the facts any suggestions or recommendations are a waste of time. Unless there's someone here who is closely associated with the workings of city hall and/or a particular department? We're all aware of a few newly created positions that should probably be eliminated (Rav comes immediately to mind) but if there are other redundant positions, we'd have to have more information to see that.
That said, I hope the CC & BOA don't fall into the trap of looking only for large dollars to cut. If you put enough of them together, those small items can add up to significant amounts. |
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 6:50:19 PM
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Originally posted by Tails
I understand what people are saying and I also disagree with what is going on but when you have a public forum like this one a "moderator" should refrain from name calling. There is no reason for that childish behavior at anytime. That's not a good example for our children to see.
Tails,
Apparently you can't read. The statement you took offense to was mine. None of the moderators made it. I said and I stand by it. Hanlon is an IDIOT The statement may be childish however, a more adult comment would require removal so this will have to do................ Hanlon is an IDIOT
Hanlon is an IDIOT
Hanlon is an IDIOT
Hanlon is an IDIOT
To the rest of the members of this board ................ Please accept my sincerest apology. I just HAD to do it! |
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Citizen Kane
Advanced Member
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 6:53:54 PM
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Tails, perhaps you missed the posting, but it wasn't the moderator who made the comment. People are entitled to their opinion, and whether you like it or not, public officials are susceptible to all kinds of commentary. Not a good example for our children to see? An honest expression of opinion isn't going to warp the psyches of our children; I'm more concerned about the example our elected officials are setting for us.
Now . . . I'm intrigued by your comments that some members of the Board of Aldermen "try and trick the public." Care to elaborate on that? In this particular instance, in the context of the budget discussion, how exactly are some members of the BOA trying to trick the public? |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 6:53:55 PM
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Dear, sweet, Tetris - I am the moderator of the Politics forum, and I take your thoughts and suggestions seriously. It's quite possible that you're referring to me, given that I have often referred to our mayor as "Walking Eagle" - the bird so full of sh** that it can't fly...and I think I may have been quite colorful in terms of describing our ethically challenged superintendent of schools.
That said...henceforth, when referring to idiots, we should refer to them as "synapses challenged," or "cerebrum moratorium."
"Asinus asinum fricat" or the conceited flatter each other about qualities they don't have! |
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tetris
Moderator
2040 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 6:59:21 PM
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I'm not an expert on municipal finance or net school spending but I was doing some research on the subject because I found it difficult to believe that the city's contribution to the schools to meet net school spending could rise $5.1 million in one tax year. I came across the following two spreadsheets on the state's DOE web site.
You must be logged in to see this link.
You must be logged in to see this link.
As I said, I'm not an expert on this subject, but the way that I'm reading these sheets, it appears that the city's required appropriation to meet the increase in net school spending is less than $400,000 (FY07 - $25,038,448, FY08 - $25,416,336). Maybe I'm wrong; maybe I don't know what I'm looking at; maybe this isn't the only thing that you need to look at. But why would the DOE publish such information for general public consumption unless it has some basis in fact? If anyone has a connection to one of our local elected officials (or if you are one), could you please get someone to answer this question!
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tetris
Moderator
2040 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 7:12:12 PM
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Court,
I don't believe that I'm the person that you have the problem with; that would be our new member Tails. I know the names are close but I don't have any problem with any of the terms that are used in these forums to describe our elected officials. The only time that I do object to them are when they are used towards fellow posters. I don't believe in poster-on-poster bashing; but everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
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Middle-Man 1
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 8:10:01 PM
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| C4F, you are a riot. The sharp cutting wit is something to behold. I do believe tetris is correct. I think you meant to direct the last post twords the poster Tails instead of tetris. Tails don't let something so mild as the word idiot bother you. And welcome to the board. The more viewpoints the better. We all clash from time to time. |
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H1ghCh4r1ty
Advanced Member
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 8:39:49 PM
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My friend Court...your knowledge of Latin is most impressive.
The Pup has informed me that the interpretation (for the rest of the blog) follows.....'Asinus asinum fricat' is a Latin proverb. It means 'The donkey scratches the donkey'.
Kindest regards to all,
The Pup
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Emile Schoeffhausen |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 9:11:19 PM
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Apologies to you, Tetris. I have indeed, mistaken you for "Tails." Interesting choice of name, tails. One hopes that you won't indulge in wagging the dog.
Never mind. I digress.
Thank you, Middleman, it's all in good fun. While I don't intend to draw blood, an occasional laceration may result from a well-directed barb.
Emile, you are quite right. The literal interpretation of that phrase is "the donkey scratches the donkey." I fear we seem to have a lot of that going on in the city these days. |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 9:21:25 PM
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| And Tetris...you're not wrong about net school spending. This is worth having our noble city government check into...instead pledging fealty to the loathesome one. The finance committee better start becoming expert in these matters instead of succumbing to the Siren on Vine Street. It's a seductive song with a very bad result. |
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tetris
Moderator
2040 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 9:40:19 PM
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Court,
No apology needed. It was a simple mistake. No harm, no foul.
It's amazing how little time it took for me to find that information about net school spending. One internet search and 5 minutes of looking at the results. I think that our elected officials could make that much time to start educating themselves. |
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Middle-Man 1
Senior Member
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 10:11:05 PM
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| Tails, I'm also interested, as Citizen Kane stated earlier, in what you meant by members of the BOA trying to trick the public. I can't agree or disagree without knowing what you meant by that. You may have some insight that I have not seen on my own. Sharing theories and ideas is what this forum should be all about. You made the decision to join in on the discussion here. I'd like to hear what you have to say on this subject. |
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H1ghCh4r1ty
Advanced Member
967 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 10:55:42 PM
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tetris,
your posts are most interesting and informative.
You speak of our, not mine, because I haven't been able to cast a vote for city council without guilt in years, elected officials to start educating themselves.
As I have said before, the collective intelligence quotient of our elected officials can't rise above the level of an after-dinner mint.
Well, when a man with severe autism runs against Nuzzo without any platform and without any help and actually gets over two thousand votes against Nuzzo, an incumbent, then it's an obvious statement about the type of people who are voting for our elected officials.
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Edited by - H1ghCh4r1ty on 06/09/2007 10:57:11 PM |
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