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tetris
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Posted - 10/09/2007 :  10:45:05 AM  Show Profile Send tetris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Massdee,

Don't know either Joe or Carlo personally. During my (sometimes) nightly walks around the city this summer, I didn't get to see Joe in action (although he was around the areas where I was) but I did see Carlo. From my brief obversations, I think the same could be said of him. I've never been overly impressed with either of their presentation of themselves at the city government meetings, at least over the long haul. It really makes been wonder sometimes if either or them are really comfortable deep down with being in politics and all that goes with it.
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Lynda
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Posted - 10/09/2007 :  9:34:12 PM  Show Profile Send Lynda a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tonight was the first opportunity for me to sit down and listen to Carlo first than Joe on the EC TV with their little speeches. I started watching with a very open mind. I listened to Carlo liked what he had to say. Than it was Joe's turn. It started out fine than not even 3 solid minutes into it he said "I am a business man who built my business, it wasn't handed to me like my opponent" may not be exact words but, after hearing that I was totally turned off once again from this man. He repeatedly reminds me of a child with his remarks. The open mind closed again.
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massdee
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Posted - 10/09/2007 :  10:44:57 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lynda, I just went back and listened to Joe's video, he did not mention his opponent at all. If you knew Joe's back ground from when he first started out in business, you would know exactly what he meant. He started his business as a very young man, by himself, working seven days a week and built it in to a very successful commercial and residential construction company. I am not trying to change your mind on who you vote for but I feel you are being unfair by making the assumption Joe was talking about Carlo. I believe he was letting the voters know that he is not afraid of hard work.

How many people in this city would even know how either Joe or Carlo started their businesses? If that was a knock against Carlo, he would have come right out and said it, otherwise, most people would not know what he was talking about. Just maybe, you were not quite as opened minded as you thought.

Listen to both videos again, compare their visions and make a decision on the issues that are facing the city. Whether it be Joe or Carlo, I want our next mayor to be the most qualified and to move our city forward.
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AVGMOM
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  08:52:51 AM  Show Profile Send AVGMOM a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just want to state for the record that I watched Joe's video and to felt that it was a comment targeted toward Carlo about not having anything handed to him, as a friend of Carlo and Stacy's I can say that they were given opportunity, but not handed anything. They both worked extremely hard when they took over there 1st store in Revere which was already open for a couple years, and Carlo worked dilligently morning to night and it showed because sales nearly tripled within a year after he owned it. And his wife Stacy worked too while pregnant with their son. So no one should assume anything was handed to Carlo because it wasn't.
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AVGMOM
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  08:57:36 AM  Show Profile Send AVGMOM a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with you Massdee, we have alot of serious issues facing our city and we really need the most qualified person to be our next Mayor.
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Court4Fred
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  1:29:58 PM  Show Profile Send Court4Fred a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look who's talking, Taylor. YOu only scuttle out from under the rocks when you can get a chea shot in and then you hide when people call you on your BS.
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massdee
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  2:51:02 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Taylor, if you are going to quote someone, maybe you should try getting the quote correct. The quote is, "Nothing has ever been given to me." He was talking about how he established his business over 25 years ago.
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massdee
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  3:00:47 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Taylor, you are an ass. Please show us all your proof of Joe's residence. You can't, because he lives on Everett Street here in Everett. Your insulting and story telling is getting very boring. It's pretty sad that you have to make up stories.
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whatashame
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  4:13:18 PM  Show Profile Send whatashame a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't find anything insulting about Joe's comment that nothing has been given to him. It hasn't. He's worked hard as a businessman and he's been very successful. No one gave him a construction company and he certainly didn't buy a franchise. The facts are the facts.

Maybe Taylor's the one that started the rumor the former mayor lived in Lynnfield.

Thanks for the good laugh.
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massdee
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  9:42:32 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The former Speaker of the House, Mr George Keverian has officially endorsed Joe for Mayor. This is the first time the Speaker has ever endorsed any candidate for Mayor. What a great honor for Joe.
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Citizen Kane
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  9:54:18 PM  Show Profile Send Citizen Kane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's interesting, massdee. I'm surprised that the former speaker would take a public stand like that. Very interesting, indeed.

As for Taylor . . . I fear that he/she is no longer worth our time or trouble. Clearly a soon to be unemployed member of the current administration spewing venom at any perceived opposition.

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tetris
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  10:44:51 PM  Show Profile Send tetris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Massdee (or anybody else who may remember),

Under the previous administration, wasn't Mr Keverian the head of the board of assessors as well as being the head of the assessor's department?
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massdee
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  10:47:39 PM  Show Profile Send massdee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tetris, I really don't know but I think I remember him only working part time back then.
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justme
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Posted - 10/11/2007 :  05:37:32 AM  Show Profile Send justme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes tetris, Keverian was the head of the Board of Assessors under McCarthy and Ragucci. He was originally brought on as a part-timer and that hasn't changed.

I was very surprised by his endorsement of McGonagle and it makes me question what's going on with Carlo. It's a well know fact that Keverian wants Bill Hart out of there.................. Is his endorsement of Joe an indication Carlo may be keeping some of Hanlon's motley crew?

I have to say I'm not the least bit comfortable with what's going on with these two candidates. Keverian hasn't campaigned for anyone since McCarthy. Why is he getting involved now?

I don't think my decision will be made until I have the pencil in my hand because both of them seem to be carrying a lot of baggage. When the time comes, I'll be voting for the one I believe will do the least harm and hope someone else steps up in a couple of years!
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tetris
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Posted - 10/11/2007 :  07:45:45 AM  Show Profile Send tetris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, justme. You touched on some of the points that I wanted to make. Don't you think that Mr. Keverian was a little more than pissed that the mayor brought in Billy Hart to sit on top of him? If Mr. Keverian was doing both jobs, I'm sure that that he was only collecting one salary; that was a net savings for the taxpayer. But the mayor had to find some job for Hart. During the budget hearings, although it was never clearly stated, the cuts that the Council was trying to make in the assessor's office seemed to be geared towards eliminating Hart's position; however, since they could only cut money and not positions, this was never going to happen. Also, at one point, I had read rumors that Mr. Keverian was considering running for mayor, although I never saw any proof of that.

So given all of that, what do I really believe that this endorsement is all about? It's probably the one thing that sits at the center of most of this city's politics: payback. The mayor's official or unofficial (what day is it?) new horse in the race is Carlo DeMaria; therefore, Mr. Keverian is supporting the other candidate, Joe McGonagle. Your arguement about Carlo keeping on some of the Hanlon crew has merit, too. But, I've tried to stay out of this speculation since none of us can really provide any proof. However, Mr. Keverian, being a city hall insider (witness his exchange with Jason Marcus last night), might know more about it than the rest of us.
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