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Court4Fred
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Posted - 10/11/2007 : 08:50:18 AM
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Tetris - don't forget that Mr. Hart's position pays more than $20K now under the Hanlon administration, while it was more than half less under previous administrations. This was definitely job creation for Mr. Hart, who is paid extremely well as a director in the community college system - about 130K. (This information can be found at the Herald)
Regarding why Mr. Keverian would choose to get involved now, may have to do with the regard with which he holds Mr. McGonagle. I believe he and Joe have a personal history, and a real friendship based on trust and collegiality. I believe that Mr. Keverian's reputation in this community preceeds him, and I don't think this is payback - because the former Mayor is not in this race, which would be the appropriate recipient of any payback. I don't think it's more than that, unless someone has better information. |
Edited by - Court4Fred on 10/11/2007 08:54:47 AM |
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justme
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 Posted - 10/11/2007 : 08:51:27 AM
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Not only was Keverian doing both jobs, he was doing them for a lot less money! If I remember correctly, the salary for the head of the Board of Assessors position was relatively small (less than $10,000.) but was increased to $30,000 (+?) when hanlon replaced Keverian with Billy.
I agree the endorsement is all about payback but I think it may also indicate Keverian is ready to retire. With this endorsement, if Carlo is elected, won’t he be asking for his resignation?
I really hope both these candidates look long and hard at their staffing plans. I’m tired of seeing my tax dollars wasted on unqualified political hacks and I know I’m not alone. It’s time to hire people based on skills and qualifications instead of who they know and who they campaigned for!
*As I re-read this it appears my statement could be misinterpreted as meaning Speaker Keverian. He is NOT one of the unqualified hacks I was referring to. |
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Posted - 10/11/2007 : 08:54:57 AM
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| I watched the re-run and I dont remember Mr. Keverian endorsing Joe McGonagle. Can someone explain how that happened? |
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justme
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Posted - 10/11/2007 : 08:59:58 AM
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| The endorsement wasn't during the meeting. There's a copy of a written endorsement from Keverian being ciculated. |
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tetris
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Posted - 10/11/2007 : 09:04:32 AM
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Justme - Maybe not ready to retire, but willing to retire, if he can't get this "wrong" righted; I believe he'd probably stay on if Joe got elected. (Although he really looked tired and beat down last night.)
Justme & Court - Good call on the increased salary.
Hallowed Dreams - Obviously, that didn't happen at the meeting last night; it is not the place for it. We received the news from a posting from Massdee, who is not only a longtime member in good standing of this board and one of its moderators, but someone who has proven that she has inside knowledge of the McGonagle campaign. |
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massdee
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Posted - 10/11/2007 : 09:22:02 AM
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| The Keverian endorsement is also in todays Leader Herald in one of Joe's political ads. |
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massdee
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Posted - 10/11/2007 : 4:20:52 PM
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| Court, I think your synopsis of the relationship between Joe and Speaker Keverian is right on. I know Joe has the up most respect for the former Speaker and values his friendship and guidance. |
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tetris
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Posted - 10/11/2007 : 4:57:13 PM
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Court,
I somehow overlooked a portion your earlier post. I don't think that it's all about payback (even though I poorly chose those words) and obviously have no proof of such; it was only my opinion. Part of my thinking involved why the Speaker would do this now when he had never done it before. Obviously, I was unaware of the relationship between Joe and the Speaker. Thank you to you and Massdee for educating me on that. Even though I don't know the Speaker personally, I, too, hold him in high regard. I was sickened by what the mayor did to him when he placed Hart above him. But enough of that bashing for me today. |
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Court4Fred
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Posted - 10/11/2007 : 5:34:24 PM
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| If you are a "basher," Tetris, then you are the kindest and gentlest basher this forum has. |
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tetris
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 08:38:22 AM
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This is a little off topic at the moment, but, I'm going to post it anyways because I believe it to be important.
I'm going to post something about you as if it were a fact. I may believe it. I just might like the sound of it. I just might want to stir up some controversy. I just might.... I don't know what else. I may decide to provide no facts about it. I may tell you and the other approximately 250 members of this board (not to mention the non-members who read the posts made here) who you need to talk to or what you have to do prove my information is factual. I know that what I post here will probably be posted somewhere else as a proven fact. Would you it like it if someone posted information about you like this?
I'm posting this in the main Carlo and Joe threads on this board as a plea to stop these kinds of posts. Opinions are fine as always but if you want to present something as fact, you should be prepared to back it up yourself; the burden of proof should not be moved to all of the people you read your posts. Sometimes, it is difficult to get the information that you need to back-up your own assertions; but, if something is important enough to post, it is important enough to do your homework on so that you can back them up completely.
Just one man's opinion. |
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chris
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 11:59:33 AM
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| You know what burns me is that everyone talks about all this BS about Carlo and this so called court case which is a bunch of crap, yet Joe walks out on his wife and kids and that's okay ?? At least Carlo is a good husband and father. |
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chris
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 12:38:49 PM
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| And if someone plans on removing "negative" posts about Joe, makesure you go through the archives and remove all the negative ones about Carlo because God knows there are plenty of them. But it's funny how there was no talk about post removal until Joe's 2 YEAR LATE TAX ISSUE was posted. Hmmmmm. |
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Citizen Kane
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 12:57:27 PM
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What the long time posters on this bord are doing is asking for restraint when it comes to this kind of talk about either candidate. It's not helpful and only serves to cloud things. Are both camps so at a loss for positive things to say about their own campaigns that they're now going to resort to this type of character assassination of both candidates?
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tetris
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 1:14:56 PM
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And it does no good to drag the negative items about your own candidates into your own posts, even for comparison purposes.
The discussion of deleting posts was over and done with in 3 quick, consecutive posts. For now, Massdee won't be deleting any posts that deal with the mayoral election/candidates in the forum she is responsible for; she did reserve the right to delete posts about other subjects if they were out of line. However, if things continue to go in the direction they seem to be going, someone may ask to bring up the subject of deleting posts again.
I shouldn't speak for them but, I am assuming that Citizen and Court have similar feelings about the forums that they are resonsible for. |
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Citizen Kane
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 1:28:32 PM
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Indeed I do, Tetris, as I'm sure Court does as well. This type of "commentary" that some people are choosing to engage in adds nothing to the important discussion of issues that most of us would rather focus on.
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McGonagle for Mayor
