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Tails
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 Posted - 05/15/2008 : 1:24:42 PM
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| I am interested in viewing the document however, I will not give up my email address for fear of political backlash. I hope there is a way to post it. |
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tetris
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tetris
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 1:54:48 PM
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Outoftowner,
I've read that ruling before but, thanks for reminding me about it. I still stand behind my previous statement. I don't believe that a local Board of Health can stand up to challenge like this without strong support from its local legal department, which many of us don't believe will be forthcoming in this case. Without strong legal help, they are bound to get tripped up on any number of techicalities. However, re-reading this link reminded me that the Boards of Health in cities that are within a 1/2 mile of the site will also have to give their approval. I believe that this should include Boston and Somerville, if not Medford as well. We might have a better chance with them.
Tails,
The Leader-Herald references MGL Chapter 30B, Section 16 (Uniform Procurement/Real Property; disposition and acquistion) as its legal source and portions of it are included in their commentary. |
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Tails
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 1:55:46 PM
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| Thank you! I learn something new everyday...... |
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kimmy
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 2:16:46 PM
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| The link opened another browser of internet explorer maybe that is why you did not see it. |
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Tails
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 2:34:21 PM
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| Oh…I’m all set, thank you. The link Tetris provided worked. I was able to get to the website however, I did not want to register and I use Safari… |
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just wondering
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 4:09:09 PM
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| Is everyone content with the conversion of the Devens into an over 55 complex or is there some other use of the facility being championed here? |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 4:52:40 PM
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| I have not read a single post that is against the sale of the Devens to this developer. Our concern is that it is done right so nothing will come back and bite the city on the butt in the future. |
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just wondering
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 7:25:11 PM
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I haven't seen any posts saying that the location is wrong for the proposed development and as massdee pointed out, not a single post against the sale.
Isn't there already a mechanism in place for managing/monitoring the actual development? (zoning board?) On top of that there are also applicable ordinances on the books to keep development in check and provide "rules to live by" once the project moves from being a development and into a real 55+ building.
The mayors job is to find the right development for that building. Judging by the lack of objection to the proposed use of the property I would say he did his job well. I may be wrong, but the CC and BoA are tasked with sanity checking the development brought in by the Mayor. Again, judging by the lack of objection, I would say that they are right to approve it.
Let's leave it to the zoning board and ordinances to monitor the project going forward. Anything that he wants to do outside of the zoning laws will require a pulic hearing through the Board of Appeals....then we can all show our faces and voice our concerns. |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 7:42:36 PM
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Wasn't this developer brought in by Mayor Hanlon?
Why does it appear that you want our discussion of the Devens stopped? Isn't that the purpose of the message board to discuss and read others opinions? |
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Tails
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 8:29:42 PM
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The city council did not have the opportunity to vote on the proposal as stated in MGL. They voted on a bid.
That’s why it was not fair to the Common Council receiving notice to vote on this the same day with a letter hand delivered to their homes.
(I will use Rosa DiFlorio as an example, which applies to everyone on the Common Council) Rosa is a very detailed woman and studies her stuff however, she works, has her own business and that was not fair that none of them had time to study this.
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Marie
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 8:42:48 PM
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| I read the commentary in todays paper. It sounds to me that the city didn't follow protocol with Mass. General Laws. I guess there is a difference between a bid and a proposal. Why didn't the city's legal department pick this up? We are paying our new solicitor the big bucks. Things like this shouldn't slip through the cracks. |
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just wondering
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 8:47:33 PM
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| correct...."Mayor" Hanlon....I'm not trying to give Carlo for it...I'm just pointing out that it's the job of any Mayors Office to cultivate development and the city council's job to sanity check and ratify his decision. Leave it to the ordinances and zoning laws to keep the developer in check |
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Tails
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 8:51:50 PM
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| That does not answer the question as to why the cities legal department did not pick this up. |
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massdee
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Posted - 05/15/2008 : 8:54:36 PM
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So, when you posted the following you were talking about Mayor Halon?
The mayors job is to find the right development for that building. Judging by the lack of objection to the proposed use of the property I would say he did his job well |
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