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just wondering
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:18:45 PM
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| You know....I feel compelled to word that a bit stronger...post responsibly or not at all doesn't convey the proper emotion. Tetris posted a blatant lie....hoping that no one would be intelligent enough to follow up. I just don't get it...I understand you have your ax to grind, but what you just did was low. I'm sure the other senior members of the board will agree with me. After all if this board is going to maintain some level of integrity, it's the right thing to do. |
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just wondering
Senior Member
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:20:03 PM
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| The mayor's office already did the homework with the state's ethics commission.....it is allowed. |
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tetris
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:22:06 PM
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What axe do I have to grind?
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just wondering
Senior Member
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:25:09 PM
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| good strategy....ignore the fact that you posted a LIE, maybe noone will notice |
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massdee
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:26:52 PM
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| How do you know what the mayor's office has or has not done? |
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tetris
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:27:36 PM
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| I don't believe that I have posted a lie; that is my reading of the law. Have gladly admitted many times that I am not a lawyer, though. |
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massdee
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:31:06 PM
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| The Boston Globe cited the same thing in it's article. So, obviously Kay Lazar read the law the same way as Tetris. If the new budget director can quote the local newspapers, then I think we can feel fairly safe in quoting the Boston Globe. |
Edited by - massdee on 06/17/2008 9:33:04 PM |
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Tails
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 Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:33:57 PM
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CHAPTER 268A. CONDUCT OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES
Chapter 268A: Section 20. Municipal employees; financial interest in contracts; holding one or more elected positions
Section 20. (a) A municipal employee who has a financial interest, directly or indirectly, in a contract made by a municipal agency of the same city or town, in which the city or town is an interested party of which financial interest he has knowledge or has reason to know, shall be punished by a fine of not more than three thousand dollars or by imprisonment for not more than two years, or both.
This section shall not apply if such financial interest consists of the ownership of less than one per cent of the stock of a corporation.
This section shall not apply (a) to a municipal employee who in good faith and within thirty days after he learns of an actual or prospective violation of this section makes full disclosure of his financial interest to the contracting agency and terminates or disposes of the interest, or (b) to a municipal employee who is not employed by the contracting agency or an agency which regulates the activities of the contracting agency and who does not participate in or have official responsibility for any of the activities of the contracting agency, if the contract is made after public notice or where applicable, through competitive bidding, and if the municipal employee files with the clerk of the city or town a statement making full disclosure of his interest and the interest of his immediate family, and if in the case of a contract for personal services (1) the services will be provided outside the normal working hours of the municipal employee, (2) the services are not required as part of the municipal employee’s regular duties, the employee is compensated for not more than five hundred hours during a calendar year, (3) the head of the contracting agency makes and files with the clerk of the city or town a written certification that no employee of that agency is available to perform those services as part of their regular duties, and (4) the city council, board of selectmen or board of aldermen approve the exemption of his interest from this section, or (c) to a special municipal employee who does not participate in or have official responsibility for any of the activities of the contracting agency and who files with the clerk of the city or town a statement making full disclosure of his interest and the interests of his immediate family in the contract, or (d) to a special municipal employee who files with the clerk of the city, town or district a statement making full disclosure of his interest and the interests of his immediate family in the contract, if the city council or board of aldermen, if there is no city council, board of selectmen or the district prudential committee, approve the exemption of his interest from this section, or (e) to a municipal employee who receives benefits from programs funded by the United States or any other source in connection with the rental, improvement, or rehabilitation of his residence to the extent permitted by the funding agency, or (f) to a municipal employee if the contract is for personal services in a part time, call or volunteer capacity with the police, fire, rescue or ambulance department of a fire district, town or any city with a population of less than thirty-five thousand inhabitants; provided, however, that the head of the contracting agency makes and files with the clerk of the city, district or town a written certification that no employee of said agency is available to perform such services as part of his regular duties, and the city council, board of selectmen, board of aldermen or district prudential committee approve the exemption of his interest from this section or (g) to a municipal employee who has applied in the usual course and is otherwise eligible for a housing subsidy program administered by a local housing authority, unless the employee is employed by the local housing authority in a capacity in which he has responsibility for the administration of such subsidy programs or (h) to a municipal employee who is the owner of residential rental property and rents such property to a tenant receiving a rental subsidy administered by a local housing authority, unless such employee is employed by such local housing authority in a capacity in which he has responsibility for the administration of such subsidy programs.
This section shall not prohibit an employee or an official of a town from holding the position of selectman in such town nor in any way prohibit such employee from performing the duties of or receiving the compensation provided for such office; provided, however, that such selectman shall not, except as hereinafter provided, receive compensation for more than one office or position held in a town, but shall have the right to choose which compensation he shall receive; provided, further, that no such selectman may vote or act on any matter which is within the purview of the agency by which he is employed or over which he has official responsibility; and, provided further, that no such selectman shall be eligible for appointment to any such additional position while he is still a member of the board of selectmen or for six months thereafter. Any violation of the provisions of this paragraph which has substantially influenced the action taken by any municipal agency in any matter shall be grounds for avoiding, rescinding or cancelling the action on such terms as the interest of the municipality and innocent third parties may require.
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just wondering
Senior Member
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:38:01 PM
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Tetris posted a pareagraph that referred to a law that is inapplicable. He/she knew that and did it anyway. He/She couldnt have gotten to that paragraph with out reading the actual law first. Hide behind your "Im not a lawyer" story all you want....the law is clearly not applicable to even those of us that don't have law degrees.
Whether or no Kay Lazar is accurate or not is irrelevant to our discussion. Kay being right or not doesnt change the fact that Tetris posted a blatant lie. How many other arguments does he/she make using that same method??
Massdee....you're the moderator....have a back bone and stick up for the integrity of you board.
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just wondering
Senior Member
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:39:01 PM
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| Tails...you are making my point....thank you. |
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Tails
Administrator
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:46:16 PM
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LOL Literally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First you said it did not exist, then you say the Mayor did his homework (yea okay) …… now you say something different???? LOL. Thanks for the laugh.
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massdee
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:46:34 PM
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| I will tell you right now, Tetris has always posted with the upper most integrity. His opinion is well respected and I will not cow tail to your games. In the past, you have been rude and arrogant to posters that don't have the same point of view as you. You are not a mind reader and have no idea what another person does or does not know. Since Tetris posted that is his understanding of the law, then I believe him. Don't give me this back bone crap. I think a phone call to the state ethics board tomorrow will give us all a clear understanding of the law. |
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just wondering
Senior Member
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:49:37 PM
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| Good idea....make that call....and record it...then send me the recording. Other than that it won't be believable. Your tactics are terrible. Thanks for confirming that you're a joke. |
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massdee
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 9:59:10 PM
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| Thank you for proving my point. |
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Tails
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Posted - 06/17/2008 : 10:04:27 PM
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I called today and it was NOT Bill Bennett...JW. The person I spoke with has been very displeased and is aware of the state ethics violation and asked me to send something in writing. So this afternoon I typed up a chronology of events and forwarded it on. Trust me that pity hall will soon be hearing that this appointment has a possibility of being null and void.
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