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Tails
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Posted - 08/26/2008 : 9:31:38 PM
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I just watched the re-run and cant believe the Mayor (of all people) would condone the actions of appointing a police sergeant the way it was done and that goes for the BOA with the exception of Chuck and RVC. I totally cant believe they could not wait for a civil law ruling. Some documentation to say it's okay. Hasnt any one of those bozo's learned their lesson after all the screw ups? I dont know Mr. Vetrano and just by what I saw, he should not have been able to push the other two in line for sergeant out of the way because he chose to leave. I could never leave my job and come back when I felt like it and just push the other people aside. He should have started back as a patrolman. He would have been lucky to get that.
I am so sick of the Mayor trampling over every friggin law on the books. Screw the proper procedure...if I grew up with you.....screw the proper procedure..... with Clayton Carlisle. We all know he was "abusive" but I doubt that was the true reason for his termination. My guess would be the AG's office said combining of the two positions was in violation of conflict of interest laws and did the Mayor fire him from Italy?
What happened to the ruling for the Chief of Staff/City Solicitor? We never heard from that but appointing Colleen Mejier so quickly, one can only guess. So now we have a Chief of Staff (whose salary was justified by these "consolidated" positions) being paid 91,000 and no one is balking about it. Hirings all over the place in City Services... Reinstatements to the police..........now positions in the Fire Department he will be filling??? Another fine mess for the city of Everett. |
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tetris
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Posted - 08/26/2008 : 10:15:04 PM
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Of course the compliment was intended for you Arthur. I wish the chief had been allowed to speak last night rather than other people speaking for him. If the chief doesn't feel that he needs a fourteenth sergeant, why was the position included in his FY09 budget? Of course I couldn't help myself and poked around a little in civil service law. All I have to say about that is that it seems to be very complicated and I hope that the city is going about this correctly. I have nothing against this guy personally and I can't comment on how or why he left since I don't know any details. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm not sure that I want to know them either.
Arthur, when you lived on a private way, did you find any benefits to it being a private way?
The Marcus comments that I missed were at the beginning of the meeting; still haven't been able to catch them on a replay. Maybe tonight's 11 PM replay.
Tails, of course Sherry Clancy didn't get those signs put up. She has a hard time getting any signs put up; although new signs did go up on the Best Buy Property itself today. It's interesting that someone got bagged last night trying to push through two more signs saying that they were requested by the Traffic Commission. If he had come from traffic, they would have appeared under the Communications section of last week's Common Council agenda and would have had a traffic commission report attached to them. Alderman DiPerri also noted that the traffic commission wouldn't have requested stop signs to address speeding issues. Although I don't expect it to happen, I'd like to see the Leader-Herald do a follow-up this week. |
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arthur
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Posted - 08/28/2008 : 06:47:37 AM
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Tetris thank you, when I lived on a private way I only got snow plowing and trash pick up now I am going back over 15 years, I can remember one of the driveways being block and the police couldn't even tag cause of the private way, we had to search till we found the owner.
Vetrano left the police with an attituded he thought he was better than everyone he went on to new ventures in his life it didn't work out and now he is back it kinda of stinks cause the next two that were in line are great officers and deserve it. I re watch the meeting again and the body language on the chief says it all, he didn't even need to speak, but, rumor has it his contract is up in a couple of months and the mayor is searching for a new chief and some of the council and alderman are pushing for it so I guess we will all have to wait and see what happens there. I don't know why there was a 14th sergent in his budget but I think that money would of been return for next years budget cause that is how things work in this city, or they new he was coming back at the end of 08. It makes sense.
Marcus he stated by thanking everyone for support on his shoulder surgery woopie, can I have attention cause I had a knee replacement (lol) crap happen your body gets older, it went to his head. |
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tetris
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Posted - 08/28/2008 : 07:53:56 AM
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When I posted that I wasn't sure that I wanted to know why Officer Vetrano had given up his position, I thought that it might be something personal that didn't need to be shared with the public. However, from what Arthur has posted here and what I've read on Topix, I can't see any reason why the information couldn't have been shared with the public.
If the chief doesn't think that he needs a fourteenth sergeant, yet, one is included in his budget, I think that tells you something. This was the first BOA meeting since the budget has been in place and the position gets filled. I don't think that this is all coincidence.
If there is no benefit to living on a private way, I don't get why people cling to them. They could all be accepted as streets if the all of the property owners on each of them agree to it.
Because I missed the very beginning of Marcus' point of personal privilege and because he had decided to go "topless" and lost his mustache, I wasn't sure if it wasn't something more serious. As a result, I took it easy on Marcus in my remarks after the meeting; so, I'll make up for it now. There was no need for the city solicitor to do Marcus' homework for him, especially if he has some extra time on his hands; I'm glad RVC told him as much. |
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Tails
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 12:12:34 PM
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(9-8-08 6:30PM-JOINT CONVENTION, AND 6:45PM-SPECIAL COMMON COUNCIL MEETING)
AGENDA AGENDA AGENDA AGENDA AGENDA AGENDA
________________________________________ REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2008, 7:00 PM, PETER J. MCCARREN MEMORIAL CHAMBERS, EVERETT, MA
COMMUNICATIONS FROM HIS HONOR THE MAYOR 1. A0271-08 Order/s/Alderman Robert J. Van Campen, as President To accept a donation totaling $2500.00 to be deposited into the FY2009 City Beautification Program Account.
2. A0272-08 Order/s/Alderman Robert J. Van Campen, as President To accept donation in the amount of $100.00 to be deposited into the Mayor's Office of Human Services Emergency Services Account.
3. A0273-08 Order/s/Alderman Robert J. Van Campen, as President That the sum up to, but not exceeding $25,000.00 be appropriated from the FY 2009 Stabilization Trust Fund Account to be applied to the Wire Division of City Services-Signal & Shop Equipment Repair Account.
4. A0274-08 Order/s/Alderman Robert J. Van Campen, as President That a sum up to, but not exceeding $90,000.00 be appropriated from the FY 2009 Stabilization Trust Fund Account to be applied to the Facility Maintenance Division of City Services-Building Repair & Maintenance Account.
PAPERS FROM THE COMMON COUNCIL 5. C0196-08 Order/s/Councilor Lorrie Bruno, as President To accept donations totaling $2500.00 to be deposited into the FY2009 City Beautification Program Account.(Passed sent up for concurrence)
6. C0138-08 Order/s/Councilor Lorrie Bruno, as President Joint Convention Report on Planning Board's recommendation and Order That a certain portion of Fourth Street, an accepted way in the City of Everett, more particularly described and on a plan attached to order, be discontinued as a public way.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS 7. A0240-08 Resolution/s/Alderman Wayne A. Matewsky That Mr. Joe Devito, Board of Health Inspector, appear this meeting of the Board of Aldermen relative to the large amount of rats being spotted around Paris, Lewis and Bailey Streets and what City is doing to prevent this issue.
8. A0242-08 Resolution/s/Alderman Wayne A. Matewsky That City Services Director and City Solicitor appear this meeting relative to an opinion on why private ways are not being maintained and repaired.
9. A0201-08 Resolution/s/Alderman Jason Marcus That the Director of Community Development, Marzie Galazka, appear this meeting relative to discussing the possibility of doing a study for placing solar panels on city buildings to help save on energy costs. (Postponed to this meeting with request for response from Community Development)
10. A0166-08 Resolution/s/Alderman Sal Sachetta Due to the high energy costs and the making of Everett "Green" for the future, I am proposing the installation of a Wind Turbine to be located behind the New Park at the old General Electric site. This generated electricity to be used for the consumption of The Madeline English School and the lighting of the new Tremont Street Park. If this proves to be feasible, and works to the City's advantage by saving the taxpayers' money, we may consider other installations, that is, at the New High School Terraces, Whidden Hospital Hill, and locations along the River, such as, Gateway Mall. (Postponed from 5/27 for a response from Community Development for this meeting)
11. A0172-08 Petition License Committee Report on Petition for Lodging House License from Caritas Communities D/B/A The Bill Moore House at 76 Norwood Street. Update received from Assessor's Office, copies on desks.
NEW BUSINESS 12. A0265-08 Resolution/s/Alderman Jason Marcus That the Purchasing Agent attach a letter to all our bids asking to give preference to the unionized organizations for work to be done.
13. A0264-08 Order/s/Alderman Sal Sachetta That the corner of Prescott Terrace and Prescott Street be dedicated and named the "Frank Dortenzio" Square. He was a Navy Veteran, and well loved and dedicated worker in the Health Department for the City of Everett.
14. A0266-08 Ordinance/s/Alderman Sal Sachetta Amending 16-55(a) to include the removal of recycling bins from sidewalks after pickup.
15. A0267-08 Resolution/s/Alderman Wayne A. Matewsky That the Police Traffic Division place the speed trap mileage indicator in the vicinity of anywhere on Englewood Ave due to increased speeding and request from area residents, in the interest of public safety. Also in the area of 83 Cleveland Ave.
16. A0268-08 Ordinance/s/Alderman Jason Marcus To amend Chapter 17, Section 17-55 of the Revised Ordinances of the City of Everett, by adding "subsection (a) All details be performed by Everett Police Officers or individuals appointed under Chapter 24 of the Acts of 2008."
17. A0269-08 Resolution/s/Alderman Wayne A. Matewsky That the Walgreen's Corporation, in the Glendale Square location, reconsider their decision to cancel having an Everett Police Officer on Duty from Midnight to 4:00 a.m. and re-assign an Everett Police Officer at that particular location during those hours mentioned.
18. A0270-08 Ordinance/s/Alderman Robert J. Van Campen That the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Everett be amended to restrict the operation of open air dumps and landfills within the City.
Adjournment
Respectfully submitted: C. McCorry, Everett City Council Office council@ci.everett.ma.us 9-16 State Primary Day 9-17 7pm Common Council meeting 9-18 6pm Bills & Accounts Committee meeting 9-22 6pm License Committee meeting 9-22 7pm Board of Aldermen meeting www.You must be logged in to see this link.
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Tails
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 1:14:38 PM
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FYI:
For the September 8th BOA meeting, the 6:30PM-JOINT CONVENTION/PUBLIC HEARING, is the Planning Board recommendation on Fourth Street. It doesn't say "Planning Board recommendation on Fourth Street" on the BOA agenda for this coming Monday night.
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massdee
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 3:19:43 PM
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I think item 18 is very interesting. Let's see how the other members of the BOA votes on this. That should tell us all how the members feel about Wood Waste. |
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Tails
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 3:57:10 PM
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Yes, and how will Matewsky handle this one.....This is a big issue for A LOT of people and a very serious matter too. This isn't a joke and lets just go along for favors. Anyone that votes against item 18 is done. The suffering has been going on too long, at least this is a start. |
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massdee
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 8:41:41 PM
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Hopefully Item 18 will pass in the BOA and the CC and it will prevent Thibeault from moving his piles of trash down to lower Broadway. Something needs to be done to reign this man in. |
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just wondering
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 8:56:19 PM
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I agree....they should definitely not allow open air dumps or landfills. I hope it passes unanimously. |
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massdee
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 08:43:42 AM
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Does an outdoor transfer station fall under open air dumps and landfills? Could this amendment prohibit Wood Waste from moving his crap to lower Broadway since there is no enclosure down there?
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Tails
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 09:29:23 AM
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I think it does....MGL Chapter 111: Section 150B states a public hearing is a must. You can not just go through the BOA and this should not be confused with the public hearing coming up about ALL matters concerning Wood Waste. There are a lot of issues about the old city yards, fourth street, etc.
There's some good reading at MGL Chapter 111 Sections 143-154. Not sure why section 144 has never been followed through... |
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massdee
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 09:40:48 AM
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Just Wondering, Do you still believe that if Wood Waste is allowed to move to lower Broadway, that Mr Thibeault must put the building up first, the city should "put the proper safeguards in place to keep Wood Waste in line" and then Wood Waste must obtain an approved occupancy permit? |
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just wondering
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 11:15:37 AM
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Massdee....I do believe that the proper safe guards should be put in place to as you say 'keep him in line'. That said, if we as a group were to prioritize our concerns about wood waste, the number one priority for all of us would be the disappearance of those piles and assurance that they wont appear anywhere else in the future. With that in mind I think it is smart for the Mayor to explore whatever options are available. That doesnt mean he has to agree to whatever Thiebault requests..but he should atleast do the required due dilligence to see if there is a safe, quick way to resolve our number one concern. My personal opinion is that we shouldnt alow him to move the piles from one site to another.....instead we should demand that he should move the piles via truck and mmediately load the material onto trains....never moving more material in a day that can be loaded on that day. That stipulation means there would never be a pile on lower broadway. If he wants to move his entire facility down to lower braodway in the future.....make him put a building up first. Thoughts? |
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massdee
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Posted - 09/05/2008 : 12:00:43 PM
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I feel if Mr Thibeault had followed through with what Mr Rossi said would be done and had begun trucking the debris to the mid-west, we would not be facing this newest issue. In my opinion, it is just another example of Mr Thibeault not following through with his word. Mr Thibeault continues to undermine any kind of trust that the residents might be inclined to place in him. I agree with you (is that a first) that he should not be allowed to move his piles from one location to another open air location. I'm not sure I agree with trucking it down there to be put immediately on the rail to be shipped out. Not that it doesn't make sense in theory, but, I honestly believe we cannot trust Mr Thibeault not to stock pile the debris down there. As he has proven many times, his word and the laws mean nothing. He might begin doing the right thing, then he usually does exactly what he wants in the end. I feel any restrictions the city might put on him, he will just end up fighting them in court, as he has done many times. He knows, as well as we all do, that the city does not have the financial means to fight him in a lengthy court battle. I honestly feel that Mayor DeMaria's association with Mr Thibeault, has put the City of Everett in a lose, lose situation. I don't think this issue is going away in the near future and it could cost Mayor DeMaria a re-election bid.
I was truly insulted the other night when the Mayor made the crack to Mr Simonelli, about getting more than six people to show up at a public meeting on the Wood Waste issue. I hope the Mayor is not so out of touch, that he doesn't understand that there are a great many of us that have deep concerns on the Wood Waste issue. Even those who would like to see the facility moved have concerns. Sorry, got off the subject a bit.
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