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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
 Posted - 07/18/2007 : 6:11:04 PM
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Obvious, I disagree. Have you seen the backlog of tickets to be input? Mr Kelly was looking for help long before night enforcement came on the scene.
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Red11
Member
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Posted - 07/18/2007 : 6:38:05 PM
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I am also a fan of Mr. Mangan. Is justme Kathy Gover ??
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2007 : 6:46:05 PM
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| Nope. I believe he's referring to Sally............ However, he blows smoke all the time so I wouldn't count on him knowing much of anything. |
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Masterful1
Senior Member
421 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2007 : 7:10:59 PM
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Are we back to that again? It does not matter who people are, what matters is the content of discussion.
Mr. Mangan, are any new hires being let go or is it only union people? Why not start at the last hired, first fired? |
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concilor mangan
Member
8 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2007 : 7:21:24 PM
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EverettsPride, the reason I sponsored this piece was to promote competition. Two years
ago, a lot of people complained about the School Committee not having any serious
opponents. I was hoping that this would bring more people out to run for School Committee.
This is what I would of told you over the phone. I have nothing to hide. |
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Red11
Member
13 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2007 : 7:23:58 PM
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why couldn't the budget be cut by getting rid of some of the elected officials positions ?? Do we really need all of those people in the city gov. trying to run the city ? Apparently it is not working anyway. I don't know if it would save a significant amount of $$, but at least it is a start.
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2007 : 8:07:00 PM
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| Councilor Mangan, trying to generate interest and more competition is all well and good but why pay them retroactively? In fact, why weren't you interested in having them become paid positions effective with the next group? The group that may have participated because of the salary? |
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EverettsPride
Advanced Member
1140 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2007 : 8:32:58 PM
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Keanu,
Are you referring to me as Ms. Gover? Thanks for the compliment, but I am not Kathy Gover.
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
1201 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2007 : 9:26:46 PM
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| I happen to think that Mr. Mangan has grown in the job as a city councilor. While I don't think the school committee should be paid (why pay for incompetence?) I think he did a good job working on the budget cuts. And Sally - I respectfully disagree with you regarding Mr. Mangan's votes on the budget. Every vote counts, and a few of them were close. Give credit where credit is due. |
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Court4Fred
Advanced Member
1201 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2007 : 9:28:03 PM
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| And Keanu? As one of the moderators of this site, I have to warn you about the "name" thing. Please desist. |
Edited by - Court4Fred on 07/18/2007 9:31:36 PM |
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concilor mangan
Member
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Posted - 07/18/2007 : 10:15:07 PM
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justme, the School Committe came into the Finance Committee with their wish list. Everyone
on that committee voted for their original proposal. It was discussed again at a Council
meeting at which time we sent it back to committee to be worked on again. Some of their
requests conflicted with the state statues. In the final committee meeting, a compromise
was reached, and it passed with flying colors. I am not afraid to say that I made some
mistakes during this process. The fact that health insurance was not offered to them was
the main reason that I supported this salary. Health insurance has risen over five million
dollars in this city in the past three years. |
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 05:23:35 AM
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| Councilor Mangan......... Thank you for the response however you didn't answer the question. I didn't ask how it happened, I asked why, if you voted for it in hopes of generating competition, you chose to pay retroactively rather than wait and pay them effective with the next term? |
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concilor mangan
Member
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Posted - 07/19/2007 : 07:47:26 AM
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justme, I agreed at the time to pay them retroactively because it was coming out of
the school's budget. Looking back at it, this is were I made a mistake. I believe
the Budget Committee in the end did the right thing though. |
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justme
Advanced Member
1428 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 08:14:56 AM
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Where the money was coming from isn't the issue and you're still not answering the question. I'll ask one more time, for the last time.............
If you voted for it in hopes of generating competition, why did you choose to pay retroactively rather than wait and pay them effective with the next term?
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concilor mangan
Member
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Posted - 07/19/2007 : 10:08:37 AM
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justme, as I stated earlier, I made a mistake here. If I had to do it all over again,
I would handle it a little different. I call it learning from your mistakes. In the
end though, the School Committee will be paid starting January of 08. There is no
retro pay, or health benefits. |
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